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Gay Man – Straight Man Friendship
Entry Feed TrackbackHello gay men populace, do you have a close friend who is a straight man? I do. In fact, my best friend is a straight man. Promise, I’m not kidding. Is he really straight? I can bet my big fat ass on it. Are we really super close friends? We hang out together all the time, and nothing is kept secret between us, and we’re much more than brothers — I can say the only thing we are not are lovers. Last question: am I in love with him? Honestly, for some time, I had to analyse it myself — but now I am sure I am not at all romantically attracted to him. He is my best bud — he is straight and I am gay. Yes dearie, it is possible. Do you have similar setups? Here is an article from New York magazine that talks about this same phenomenon – the gay man/straight man friendship.
Mano a Mano
Much has been made about how a “Queer Eye” can benefit a straight guy. But there is no shortage of gay men who would welcome a little straightening out.
By Amy Sohn
While everyone is familiar with the “fag hag” archetype (a woman who enjoys the company of gay men), more and more straight men these days are choosing gay men as companions and friends. With Queer Eye for the Straight Guy on TV a dozen times a week and homophobia on the decline, straight-gay friendships between men are becoming less and less taboo—for both sides. And as for the style question, in some cases it’s the straight eye for the queer guy. “A friend of mine was getting ready for a date,” says John, 39, a copywriter, “and he was worried his place looked too faggy. I took some dirty laundry from a hamper and threw it over his bed, messed up the sheets a little bit, and scuffed his shoe. He said the date was really good. He’s been doing it ever since.”
What makes these friendships work, say the men I spoke with, is a combination of sameness and difference. “Straight guys are pretty basic and pretty simple,” says Tim, 25, a gay artist with many straight friends. “They’re kind of like dogs. They tend to be straightforward, whereas gay guys can be kind of needy and dramatic. I can be comfortable with both. It just depends on what I’m in the mood for.”
“Gay men and straight men have a lot more in common than gay women and straight women,” says Simon Doonan, creative director of Barneys New York, who calls straight men who hang out with gay men “fag stags.” “They both want to make money, to work, and they’re here to satisfy their libidos. Gay men are particularly drawn to masculine straight men because they find them very entertaining and exotic. Guys who are too woo-woo—their herbal-tea collection is a bit too large and they do a lot of yoga—aren’t so interesting.”
Within these nontraditional pairings, there is plenty of opportunity to be un-p.c., to mock and stereotype each other, which can be liberating for both sides. “The gay-straight divide is a source of constant amusement,” says John, who is close friends with Mayer, a gay editor, 36. “If I see somebody that looks ridiculously gay and stupid,” says John, “I’ll say, ‘One demerit for your team.’ And he’ll tell me about some literary party and say, ‘I’m sure the straight smart set will be coming out in droves.’ ”
John first started hanging out with gay guys fifteen years ago when he moved to New York and met RuPaul through a mutual friend. “I didn’t want to be friends with white middle-class kids, so when I met this tall black transvestite, I thought he was cool as hell. I would hang out in his trannie house watching Valley of the Dolls with these guys, and I was just as much of a curiosity to them as they were to me.”
Today he has so many gay friends that his straight friends tease him about it. He likes hanging out with gay men because he finds them more entertaining than straight guys, especially since he’s not interested in sports. “In a gay crowd, you’re supposed to be witty if you want to be a winner, whereas straight guys can get away with not being that funny. With gay men, the art of being social is held more dear.”
Mayer, for his part, says he likes calling upon John when he needs de-gaying. When he was preparing for a date with a cop, John helped him replace his book of Cecil Beaton photographs and Liberace at Home with Portrait of America. Unfortunately, says Mayer, “in the end it didn’t really matter, because the guy opened his mouth and a purse fell out. He looked like Tarzan and talked like Jane.”
He likes spending time with John, he says, because it’s such a shift from his regular circle. “It’s a relief for big poofs like me to have straight-guy friends because there isn’t a sense that you’re after the same thing, and our time together lets me take a break from poofery.”
There are some potential pitfalls in gay-straight friendships—girls, for instance. Girlfriends can get jealous, even suspicious, of a boyfriend who spends a lot of time with his gay-male friends. Gay men can be just as judgmental: “I have a friend who’s very effeminate but straight,” says Tim. “My friends say to me, ‘Oh, of course he’s gay; he just hasn’t come out yet,’ because of the way he crosses his legs. I’ll make fun of them for being so quick to judge.”
But shouldn’t they wonder? Isn’t there a chance that a straight man who likes gay men is just a gay man waiting to come out? “The straight guy needs to be very macho and confident,” says Doonan. “Otherwise, there’s the possibility that he’s someone who doesn’t know if he’s Arthur or Martha. He ain’t a fag stag—he’s just a fag.”
Gay men say that even if they find their straight buddies attractive, they’d never come on to them; the purpose of the friendship is the friendship. “The straight guys that you’re actually attracted to,” Mayer explains, “are not necessarily the ones you would go out and have a beer with. The straight guys you’re attracted to are reserved for masturbatory fantasy only. I think John’s a hot guy, but I’ve never been attracted to him because he’s my homie.”
So what do straight guys and gay guys talk about when they get together? As with all friendships, there’s sexual regaling and love confiding—the straight men give tips on how to meet guys who aren’t so nelly, the gay guys get the straight guys to raise their personality standards. “I once dated a woman who was really cute but didn’t have an outgoing personality,” John recalls. “Straight guys really loved her because they could be flirtatious and domineering, whereas gay men would say to me, ‘If you put something out there, you should get something back.’ They weren’t immediately seduced by her attractiveness.”
As much as the differences can be enlightening, even edifying, there are times when a guy can feel like a fish out of water. “I was with a group of friends at a party,” John recalls. “They got stoned and the conversation moved from the subject of Palm Springs to musical theater. They were talking about all this musical-theater stuff. I said, ‘This has gotten way too faggy for me,’ and I just got up and left.”
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yup meron akow…
ewan at Sep 2, 07 at 7:40 am
siyempre akow din, ‘musta na Pogi!
jimg29 at Oct 11, 07 at 3:03 pm
i do have straight guy friends. though my bestfriend is female, all guys who court her do become my drinking buddies. and everyone of them knows that i am gay. and most of the time, they are also well aware of the possibility of being talked about as my booyfriends. and most of the time, they would gamely pretend to be my boyfriends. but that’s all that there is between me and them, good friends.
zulu at Oct 14, 07 at 12:05 pm
i have close friends who are straight too. at hindi nila tinitingnan as a person who would lust after them eventhough some of them are somewhat within my “type of guy” thing.
cainam at Oct 31, 07 at 1:23 am
oh, that’s no longer taboo these days. I have had students who became very close friends of mine, office mates who enjoy my escapades, clients who treasure me as a rare find and nephews who just can’t let go of my presence. all of these guys, I confess are companions i tremendously enjoy. I am sure they too feel the same. In fact, in almost all their gigs these young students of mine would find time to pull me out of my confines to be with them. There were times that i would go to spa with my office mates and they impose to choose a male attendant for me while i would not be allowed to have the hand to scrutinize their female choices. Que ver ko naman , noh? In many occasions, i enjoin them to girlie bars and while sulk and snide in the edge of my seat as the show progresses, i recite a litany of unending side comments that will fill their cups of laughter. And they would do the same to me when we go to gay bars, mind you. Straight guys will always consult their gay friends anytime they would need aesthetic advise- it maybe for a personal need, a domestic requirement or for an important event. I count myself among these gays whose bountiful of straight guys would come to my rescue for reasons of this sort.
In the past decade or so, I enjoy the company of straight men, regardless of class, status, regional origin or age. with them, I just be myself- bare of my true colors, speaking the same language, and even if effeminate that i am, like most of you- I must admit gays are often the livewire of any situation. we are well versed of any topic of conversation all because a lot of gays are well read, keen with all sorts of media and updated with almost all current situation. we share our thoughts when solicited and whenever we articulate any, they are either with substance or filled with contagious humor.
if i wax profound deeper into the situation, for me, i will trace back the reason to when i was young. often, when i got physically and verbally abused, I would always run into our communal room, look for my school bag and read my books or do my assignments. I would forget the pain while reading or solving mathematical problems. I would memorize poems even if they were not required to study them. I found comfort enriching myself with knowledge believing that education would free me from the bondage of being ridiculed …. abused…. of being accepted as one of them… Maybe i share this experience with a lot of you and maybe because of this, I have learned the art of enriching myself with skills that is conducive to any type of situation, gender, age or race. I feel confident because I know, they can benefit the same fun with my company not far different from another straight guy, but sometimes they admit, even much better! the truth of the matter is, straight guys are gay to be with, and that is a matter of fact!
dann at Dec 29, 08 at 7:50 am
i have!
clemence at Apr 20, 09 at 3:49 pm
Yes I do have. wwe both know our limitations. okay lang yung yakap yakap
pero walang below the belt. ok din yung kiss wag lang sa lips.
Winterking at May 3, 09 at 10:18 pm
I have a str8 friend and we’re very close.Hes married with 3 kids. we’re ofcmates. I know if a guy is gay kasi malakas masyado ang gaydar ko. pero our friendship seems to go deeper…mag 4 years n kaming friends but during the third year na magkasama kami, io felt different for him…i think im in love. madami syang pinakita na medyo spenial for me like minsan pag nasa mall kami dinadala nya yung mga pinamili ko. of minsan very thoughtful sya na pag may alam syang mga bagay na gusto kong gawin at meron syang pagkakataon, isasama nya ako or magskedule sya para gawin namin yun.
our freindship went deeper like he said problems with his wife and kids. ganun kaming ka-close. oftentime nag hangout kami sa room ko pag wala masyado ginagawa sa office. we’re jsut there singing and dancing kwentuhan…but no sexual stuffs involve. dumating din sa point na regualr sya nagtetext at biglang naging “game” na like kung sino sa min ang mnagtetext ng una lalo na pag wkend since hinid kami magkikita ng 2 days.then when monday came, sasabihin nya na madami daw sya ginawa kaya di sya nakapag text to think na wala naman dapat itext.
dumating ang araw na i have to go to canada and stayed there for good. Hindi nya ako kinausap ng ilang araw. But two days before my flight, he texted me, nagparamdam sya. So i invited him to my place at buong araw kami sa room ko…kwentuhan, reminiscing our first meeting, singing..etc. I remember pa nung unang nalaman nya yung plano ko na umalis, hindi sya nagbibiro ng medyo kinky but 3 times nya ako na biniro na medyo bastos hehehe. kasi humihingi ako sa kanya ng farewell gift. sabi kasi nya nun bibigyan daw nya ako. when i reminded him abt it biglang sabi nya, “sige bibili kita ng kahit anu basta ba papakantot ka sa kin”. I just shrugged it off at di ko pinansin and i took it as biro. pero everytime na pinaalala ko yung farewell gift nya lagi na nya yun sinasabi. never syang magbiro sa kin ng ganun beofre, nun lang nung paalis n ko…pero siguro biro lang yun…
pero na-inlove ako sa kanya…i just dont know kung sya may naramdaman dins a kin…
bluehballs at Jul 22, 09 at 2:43 pm