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Open Relationship: “Masakit pala.”
Entry Feed TrackbackHi Migs,
I’ve been following your blog for more than a year now. I’m not exactly sure how I found your blog, but I have it now on my ‘favorite’ bookmarks.
Anyway, my friends call me Max. I work on a cruise ship as a photographer. I am a firm believer of open relationship, until recently.
James and I have been boyfriends for a year and five months, and yes, we have an open relationship. I told him it’s okay for him to have sex with anyone, as long as I am informed before or right after the deed, no kissing the lips, and no sweet cuddles. And I was doing the same thing, especially when I was abroad. Then yesterday we met in Megamall around 1130am so we can have lunch together and watch V-League in San Juan afterwards. While we were having lunch, he told me he has to go around 7pm because his friend asked him to come with him so they can bully the ex of his friend. My intuition told me that there’s something wrong, so I asked for the guy’s number and sent him a text message.
So it was confirmed. It wasn’t a friend, but another someone my boyfriend is dating. Well, they’ve done the deed twice already. I told the guy that it was okay for me, but honestly, it’s not. I told James I was jealous. I’ve never been so jealous all my life.
This is not the first time I caught him red handed lying to me. We’ll, we’re both guilty of violating our rule to inform each other before or right after the deed. He’s only 18 now, and this age is known as ‘makakati’. I know he’s been having affairs with a lot of people, his friends and chat rooms can tell.
Migs, I am at a loss. I don’t know what to do. Should I break up with James or stay with him, and do what? Sobrang sakit ng nangyari kahapon. Hindi ko alam kung masakit dahil alam kong magkasama sila, or dahil mas nabigyan ng priority ung isang guy over saakin. 1030pm, I texted the guy, and they’re still together. I, nor my friends can’t give me advise on what to do next with James and our relationship. I asked James if he still loves me, and he said yes, and I love him so much too!
I wish you can show me some directions.
Thanks,
~Max
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Ang pumayag ka sa “Open Relationship” ay isang kamaliang di mo na pwedeng ituwid. Pinahihirapan ka at sinasaktan ng MULTONG ikaw mismo ang gumawa sa pagpayag mo sa ganung set up. It’s better na maghiwalay na lang kayo. Mga kabataan talaga ngayon.. masyadong mapusok at mapaglaro.. Im not saying that im old, im only 25 pero madami na ako na expirience thing about what we so called LIFE.
Jaymar at Nov 18, 07 at 1:47 pm
hahaha nawawalan na ng maisheshare si migs! ginawa mo ng column ang blogs mo. hahaha dear ate migs na ang drama. nakakaloka. ^-^ peace migs.
lordrommel27 at Nov 18, 07 at 1:51 pm
duh,let go na kc…if he truly loves you na pure d xa dpt nkikipag meet nor sex to other guys.he is to young and adventerous kya for sure d k tlga love nyan,i can’t imagine n alam mo lhat ng gngwa nya pero wla kpang ginagawang move to stop this and face the fact pwede kpang mahawa kung may sakit ung k sex ng boyfriend mo,kaloka diba…the best thing to do is to let him go… mahirap kc mahal mo pa xa, but i’m sure you can find someone na higit pa sa knya,sometimes our feelings make us stupid.peace out
rakefed at Nov 18, 07 at 2:05 pm
Leave the guy. Obviously, you can’t stand the set up given the circumstances. Magkaroon ka naman ng dignidad sa sarili mo. Go back to your old self and enter in a relationship na exclusive. Kalokohan yang open relationship na yan. Baka magkasakit ka pa.
As for the age, I do not believe na porke 18 eh makati na. Yung huli ko almost 40 na pero open relationship pa rin ang drama. Wala sa age, nasa character at paniniwala ng tao yan. So get a guy who has a good character at hindi puro looks at katawan lang.
Matteo at Nov 18, 07 at 2:05 pm
open relationship, its like a box of chocolate, you will know what u gonna get, emotionally i mean.
Kazan at Nov 18, 07 at 2:41 pm
what relationship? you have some kind of agreement with this guy to screw other people. now you can’t handle your own agreement with this guy. it is obvious this arrangement is not for you. move on.
alfonso at Nov 18, 07 at 3:00 pm
Just follow rakefed, he’s right! LOL
jimg29 at Nov 18, 07 at 3:03 pm
Don’t sugar coat it by labelling it as “open relationship” just to sound good. It’s simply promiscuity and decadence. It’s either you’re afraid of commitment or just a typical polygamous person. We’ll at least you learned something i.e., you cannot live by your set rules cause it never works besides being risky. Move on by going into an exclusive and meaningful relationship well-founded with “love”. I wish you all the best.
Kiro at Nov 18, 07 at 3:44 pm
Tama silang mga nagsabing iwan mo na. Also, stop hurting yourself. Once you leave this guy, take this opportunity to help yourself rather than hurting yourself.
James at Nov 18, 07 at 4:48 pm
ur going to be the director of ur life…kaya pag sinabi mong pack-up na ang shooting… wa na sanang retake… move on girl!!! ciao bella!!!
twinkee at Nov 18, 07 at 5:33 pm
I’m from an open relationship myself, and after a year and three months, we’ve gone from open to exclusive to committed.
don’t think that everyone chooses an open relationship for the same reasons: i.e. promiscuity. i chose an open relationship because my boyfriend asked for it. he had commitment issues and was kind of lost his sense of things. in a way, i chose it because it was the most that he can offer me.
it was fun and painful at the same time. the relationship had loopholes and leeways which work to our advantage and detriment.
afterwards, around 9 months later and after 2 months of not talking we decided to be exclusive. very recently, we sealed a commitment.
i think every relationship should go through an open stage when you’re allowed to explore as see how well you can survive without this guy. as for me, i found out that i CAN live without him BUT i’ll be sad. and then that’s when you start lobbying for a committed relationship.
it takes patience, and a great deal of (at times, blind) trust to get to that stage when the two of you would be inseparably in love.
i’d also say that “love” is premature in your setup. if you think he’s worth it, you’ll be patient enough to wait until “love” really happens between the two of you. he might not just be ready yet. a commitment is a big thing to ask for someone. so be careful.
Ben at Nov 18, 07 at 7:08 pm
Every relationship goes through this “open” stage, and that is called casual dating, which happens BEFORE the commitment. I can go out with as many guys, I can hang out with them, I may even choose to have sex with them, and that’s okay! But the moment you begin alluding to, responding to, and encouraging some sort of emotional intercourse between you and one guy, I think you should begin to drop the rest of the “gang”.
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There’s nothing more pathetic than for a guy to “hang in there” and wait for someone to be ready to commit. To wait it out and settle for the hurt and pain because it is the most that his guy can offer! Move on, Max, because there are more men out there who are willing to take what you have to give. Sefl-respect and confidence, man! You deserve to be happy in love.
Jedd at Nov 18, 07 at 8:01 pm
i dunno anything about open relationships.. i’ve thought of suggesting that set-up to my long time boyfriend but i guess i know it wasn’t for the likes of me..cguro, hindi ko lang makita yung totoong respeto sa ganung sitwasyonhhmm..
hopia at Nov 18, 07 at 8:30 pm
if you’re no longer happy, then what’s the point in your relationship??
take a pick:
a.) break up with him..
b.) start being exclusive..
c.) find out why he has to lie, even though you both know that it’s okay as long as you follow a certain set of rules..
d.) something else i haven’t thought of yet..
but what’s important is you talk to him.. ’cause from what i’ve understood, he’s the only one you haven’t opened this up to..
David at Nov 18, 07 at 8:59 pm
there are two main schools of thought in loving. the first one, to which i subscribe, is the kind alluded to in the character of florentino ariza in “love in the time of cholera” and it’s about waiting for the right time with the right person.
the second one, the more prevalent these days, is “anyone-willing-right-now” and speaks a lot about our ways that have become too self-centered and impatient.
if all of us are subscribing to the “there are so many men out there” attitude, then i think i know why many of us think that most gay relationships are bound to fail. because subconsciously, anyone, following this way of thinking, is easily replaceable.
to the left, to the left… hehe.
Ben at Nov 18, 07 at 9:07 pm
david has a point. talk to HIM about this. the problem about many couples is that they talk of their problems first with those who are NOT party to the problem. that being said, i think i should shut up. LOL. kayo ang mag-usap at kayo ang mag-decide kung saan kayo magiging masaya.
Ben at Nov 18, 07 at 9:11 pm
love is such a big word to throw around these days. everyone says it but they dont really mean it—or worse—they really don’t know what it means.
some people say it and yet their executuion of what consitutes love shows they dont really know what they talk about.
max—you seem like a good guy. one of the few decent guys who actually can seem to understand what a commitment is all about. dont waste your time on someone who is soo not on the same page with you. cut and cut clean—youll love yourself afterwards.
i still believe in exclusivity. i still believe in a happily ever after. i still believe in fairy tales.
don’t sell out. don’t be desperate.
raymund gerard at Nov 18, 07 at 9:22 pm
no questions ask, break him na. how can you trust a liar?
fattyacid at Nov 18, 07 at 11:30 pm
tama, not good pics at all pero migs is very credible (about 90% hahaha) when it comes to choosing our guys. well, i know many handsome guys in person but so ordinary looking when their pics are taken…better na yun kesa kabaligtaran di ba?
fattyacid at Nov 18, 07 at 11:37 pm
waa migs…my later reply was for that waiter guy you featured before…bakit dito napunta? >,
fattyacid at Nov 18, 07 at 11:39 pm
Making a relationship open is like tearing it slowly.
itsonsms at Nov 19, 07 at 12:24 am
There is such thing as fidelity, which was not made exclusively for straight couples. Love knows no gender.
Yddaj at Nov 19, 07 at 12:31 am
for the lack of anything to say, I agree with Jedd. I have shared my piece regarding this open relationship thing and I do not like it.
ewan at Nov 19, 07 at 12:38 am
if you are happy and you love james then you can live with it…im into open relationship for 15years now..what is impt is that you are happy and not trying to make somebody happy.
iloveboom at Nov 19, 07 at 12:56 am
dear, you’re just inlove with the idea na inlove ka sa kanya. to the point na pumayag ka sa isang open-relationship eh ikaw sa sarili mo eh hindi sigurado.
hindi komo m2m ang relationship nyo/natin eh we can’t practice fidelity. we can enjoy the blessings of one-to-one relationship. only if you want to.
comments above me are all saying the same thing – you made your own ghosts so deal with it. wala ka nang magagawa. you screw others, he screws too, but this time, he got you.
not because he’s 18 means he’s “makati”, it’s just that YOU SHOWED HIM THAT IT IS OKAY TO SCREW SOMEBODY EVEN IF YOU ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP.
I just hope you made yourself a good example. But you didn’t. Oh well.
flash at Nov 19, 07 at 1:17 am
Tell him you’re hurt and that this time, you want a “close relationship”. If he says no, then close the relationship…do I make sense here..hahaha
peppoi at Nov 19, 07 at 3:38 am
kagaguhan ang open relationships na yan! anong klaseng tao ang gugustuhing makipag”make love” sa supposedly “mahal” niya, when he knows for a fact na nakipagsex yung “mahal” niya kung kaninu-kanino ilang minuto bago niya?
mark erik at Nov 19, 07 at 3:45 am
If you want to hang on to your 18 year old boy and if there is consent between you two grown-ups over this relationship (as in you both really love each other), my suggestion is to change the rules of the game. After all, you both established the open relationship rule for your relationship so why not change what you established … and come up with something that you two could honestly agree on without the hurts/ pretense?
rabbit at Nov 19, 07 at 6:16 am
Haay….just recently i encountered a somewhat similar situation….bata pa cya as in….but we started out serious sa isat isa but eventually nahuhuli ko na cyang may iba ibang ka meet…hiniwalayan ko cya nung una but nakipagbalikan cya and i ended up agreeing sa isang open relationship….ok na sana but still tehre are things that he doesn’t want to share talaga hangang sa nakipag break na lang ako….kaya ko sanang tiisin kaso naisip ko na lang na mas mahalin sarili ko…wala lang share ko lang hehehe….
shikamaru914 at Nov 19, 07 at 6:54 am
Let go.
dennis at Nov 19, 07 at 8:03 am
I had my first ever boyfriend which i truly love and agreed with him on an open long distance relationship. I used to lived with him for a year, until he decided to go back to the Philippines. I know sex is a very impt. aspect of one’s humanity so I agreed on an open relationship since i am not able to provide him sex. I was able to survive for a few months just wanking and he told me he had several casual meet ups already. Until one day I learned he had fallen for this one night stand guy that he had sex repeatedly. He learned to tell lies to me just to make me feel that he still loves me and that everything that happens is purely sex and nothing more to it. That all started my tragedy, now we have been living apart as strangers as if we never knew each other. I know that I still loved him but I lose one very important aspect in a relationship which is trust. Now i regret being very liberal on this open rel. set up, coz it just bring disaster if not tragedy.
baklamancutedin@yahoo.co.uk at Nov 19, 07 at 9:50 am
honestly, i had an open relationship once. It never worked back then, and i don’t think it will ever work. With your set-up, there’s always the risk of the following:
1. he will lie to you. Most Filipino men, despite all the freedom you give them, will not admit to being promiscuous to their partners. He will never tell you before hand, nor will he tell you if he can hide it from you. It’s human nature. They always believe that what yuo don’t know cannot hurt you.
2. he or you will fall for the other guy. You are far away from each other. Unless you’re both super mature and secure with each other, your set up will not work. At this stage, I believe that both your partner and yourself are not ready for this relationship
3. with your current practices, you are both at risk of getting a sexually transmitted disease. you have multiple partners and no one knows for sure how safe they are.
my advice is, to get yourself a real exclusive and monogamous relationship. if you can’t physically be with each other, just use your best friend, Mary Palmer. It’s the truest test of love if you can wait for each other, diba?
chismoso at Nov 19, 07 at 11:32 am
letse madrama ang pota bahala ka.face the consequences of ur actions
jayzee at Nov 19, 07 at 12:26 pm
Most 18 year olds aren’t mature enough for a committment anyway. They’ve just learned how hot they are and want to be desired by one and all. Depends if you just want him as a sex partner because they never settle down til they’ve screwed around.
Ian at Nov 19, 07 at 1:36 pm
He’s 18 now and you’ve been boyfriends a year and a half? Dude, what were you thinking?
sinfulkiko at Nov 19, 07 at 3:04 pm
When you enter into a relationship, there is no thing as “open” because the word relationship entails commitment. When there is commitment, the word fidelity comes in. When fidelity is not observed, then there is something wrong especially when lying is involved. Because if you lie it means you don’t trust the other person anymore that he is not capable of accepting everything that you are.
Hiding something from your partner is a no no, especially when if comes to physicial relationship and you are not respecting your partner anymore.
If you are hurt with the agreement that you had before perhaps you could ask him if he is ready for an exclusive relationship. Then if he says he is not, then set him free so you free yourself of emotional baggage and regain your dignity and self-respect.
akoito at Nov 19, 07 at 5:04 pm
migs, mas maganda kung yung title nung entry is makakati, hahaha
sapphire at Nov 19, 07 at 7:10 pm
Dear Migs,
As my way of reacting to Max’s story, let me share two stories in which I had personal involvement in the two guys in these stories. The first story happened to the guy I dated two years ago and who regularly slept at my place (I thought we’d become lovers, but it did not happen because I met someone I liked better). Prior to us, I learned that he was in a live-in but open relationship. The idea of having an open relationship came not from him, but from his boyfriend. They had rules: a) both of them must inform the other of his liaison/s, b) no repeat performance with a guy, etc. His boyfriend also brought up the idea of their having a three-way with another guy. His bf was the one who brought home the guys they had three-way with. One time, as my friend and his bf begun having 3-way with this guy that his bf brought home, the bf just suddenly withdrew from the two of them and watched from the side of the bed as my friend and the other guy make out. Then my friend noticed that his bf was crying as he was watching them.
The lovers in my second story had the same arrangement. The younger guy was my classmate in one of my MA classes. I think my classmate started to like this guy he had casual sex with that he learned to hide from his bf their succeeding encounters. Prior to that, the older bf even took pictures of my classmate and the other guy as they were having sex. So the bf knew of my classmate’s involvement with this guy. Then one day, my friend and his new lover just eloped. To retaliate, the bf sent the pics of my friend as he was in different states of undress with the new bf to the e-group of our class. The bf had access to my friend’s email because he was the one who would sometimes send my friend’s paper in class to our teacher. Many of our classmates sympathized with my friend. Of course they did not know of the arrangement between my friend and his former bf. The bf tried to explain his side by sending a message to the e-group saying that he was the one wronged in the situation and that people in the e-group should not judge him harshly.
There are various reasons why lovers, especially gay lovers enter into an open relationship. Others claim that the arrangement strengthens the bond between lovers. Also, some say that it (open arrangement) brings back the heat in a relationship that was already losing inertia because of too much familiarity. But if we notice, the same reason that is said to add spice to an old relationship also causes the split of that relationship. I think, it is because in the end, we are only human and neither the rules of open relationships nor our personal conscience can dictate for whom our hearts would beat (or from whom our loins would generate heat).
Kaya dapat, pag pumasok ka sa ganitong arrangement, handa ka sa consequences.
Btw, this is my first time to post a message here, although I’ve been visiting this site for quite some time now, at napahaba pa message ko. But I like the issues that MGG tackles here.
COMMENT FROM MIGS: Salamat, salamat, John for sharing your stories. Welcome to the commenting community of MGG! Enjoy! *hugs*
john at Nov 19, 07 at 7:24 pm
Masakit talaga ang katotohanan na ang Bakla, Bisexual, Metrosexual …ay Biologically “MALE” in nature or May Lawit pa ring nalilibugan.
FACT: Male,yes… even gaymen are born POLYGAMOUS!!! Yan ang katotohanan
UchihaMadara at Nov 19, 07 at 9:28 pm
EXCUUUUSE ME LANG MGA PEOPLE!!!! ang daming tumitira sa open relationship so can i JUST SAY, i am in an open relationship for three years now and it works very well for me and my boyfriend. we love each other very much. more everyday! our rule is that our relationship comes first before any of our flings, and unlike MAX, were not supposed to talk about our boys on the side. Why should we? bakit mo naman gustong alamin pa ang mga detalye? MASAKIT PALA? its only because di mo alam ang pinasok mo. The truth is youre clearly not ready for an open relationship. So if you and James love each other, close the relationship, kung ayaw nung kahit isa sa inyo, then its not your time. Bite the bullet.
jang chul soo at Nov 20, 07 at 12:55 am
well you said you’ve been lying to each other, what else do you expect of it?
chuchucaracas at Nov 20, 07 at 1:16 am
eh pinili mo yan eh from the start dapat malinaw lahat! Since pringles ka na sa eksena be brave enough to ask question moreover be brave enough to get ANSWERS! PEACE!!!!!
mouthworxz at Nov 20, 07 at 11:45 am
My 2-cents worth:
- It’s SO easy to say i love you but it is SO VERY hard to make someone feel truly loved.
- I used to be in an open relationship. We lasted close to 6 years. It was an open relationship only in terms of the physical aspect of it. Both of us made sure that the open-ness of the relationship would not have an emotional consequence to it. It can work but it’s not for all couples.
- I think the difficult part in this open relationship that you have is the fact that your partner is just 18 years old. I believe he’s too young, ‘excited’ and curious with life to handle this kind of a relationship. I remember always telling my friends that I endeavor not to be involved with anyone below 24 years old because any younger than that age, means, that the person is most likely to be still defining his being.
- However, if you love the guy and he truly loves you then it’s necessary for you to have a dialogue with your partner. The caveat, though, is you may have to be ready for any consequence that may arise from that undertaking.
All the best!
Storm at Nov 20, 07 at 12:03 pm
kailangan pa ba ng advice para dito? kain ka ng kitkat .. lilinaw din pagiisip mo pagkatapos mong makakain ng kitkat!
from1fagtoanother at Nov 20, 07 at 6:22 pm
“…..sooner or later, you will just let it go….”
marvz at Nov 20, 07 at 8:02 pm
Um,you admit that you’ve also violated your commitment to be honest to him if/when you’ve messed around with others yourself. And now you’re whining because you’ve caught him doing the same (practicing dishonesty).
Sorry, but karma’s a bitch, ain’t it.
Dr. Laura at Nov 20, 07 at 8:40 pm
I once asked directly my partner if he had sex with someone (we are not in an open relationship) and he said yes. My initial reaction was, its hot!
I know na I am very curious with this and would want to try having sex with someone other than him (He can read this).
But he’s very seloso. At ‘lam ko di siya papayag. It’s unfair to me I know but what can I do? I don’t want him to be hurt.
We both know andaming temptations dumarating sa ‘kin, turned down lahat,hehe.
The point is kung, nasa pag-uusap yan. kung di kayang pangatawanan, wag magbibitiw ng salita. wag parang pulitiko just to please someone! una sa lahat sarili muna.
hustlingmind at Nov 20, 07 at 8:43 pm
You started with an open relationship and to me, this is valid. That is because both of you agreed, and apparently benefited from the set-up.
Now something has changed, you want him more than what you agreed upon. It’s time to talk to him, firm up those boundaries, redefine your relationship. Again, like when you started, you come to an agreement.
I hope it’s what you’re hoping for! If not, maybe some compromise will help. Or better yet, you need a good slap in the face and go back to where you previously stand. Peace!
RonTab at Nov 22, 07 at 3:55 pm
All I can say better learn to live without him…..the more you stay and see him the more the hurt. It’s just like I love you but I don’t trust you. In the end you are still going to loose the person you love. Let go and be done with for you have your life to live for. Enjoy life for you only live once remember that enjoy it not with that kind of person many are waiting for you again hindi siya lang ang mundo. I been there and I know it hurts took me one year or more to really get over it…. Go with friends and welcome freedom….
Take care and enjoy life…
Mikke at Nov 23, 07 at 4:36 am
he went to my apartment today and we had out closure. we kissed and hugged for the last time. but we promised to remain friends still.
thanks for all the comments and suggestions. and thanks migs for publishing my letter.
actually, he never reads this, but when he came to my apartment today, he has a printed copy of this entry up to the 17th comment. it was printed for him by one of his friends.
guys, it’s not all James’ fault. I have myself to be blamed as well, and i totally understand him. I think we just need to move on with our lives now. but at least we’re still friends. =)
thanks!
max at Nov 23, 07 at 11:35 pm
Smells like a happy ending to me… Best Wishes
RonTab at Nov 26, 07 at 2:48 pm
you must first realize that its a gays life……
gboi at Nov 27, 07 at 3:02 pm
i am so totally against it!
OMG! having an open relationship is just as bad as cheating on each other! let me just ask you, what the hell are you doing in that relationship??? wala na bang iba??? even if in the future…he assures you that he stopped doing that already…gagawin at gagawin pa rin niya yan. we are creatures of habit.
im sorry to those people who think that it is the way it is(the polygamy) because anatomically, we’re still men…its just a stupid excuse to make a wrong deed right…if someone tells me na: ‘im sorry…im only a man!’ all i have to say back is:’screw you’
having an open relationship means the commitment is not there…its just the comfort you can offer that makes him stay with you.
fratboi02 at Nov 28, 07 at 12:02 pm
glad that it turned out well max…sorry for the nasty comment. i just dont want those kinds of relationships…mga open relationships and yung mga kabit especially yung cheaters…i hate ‘em…i know that its not entirely james’ fault…you’re also a culprit since you let it happen…basta…dont let yourself be treated like that ever again!…it will make other people think that its ok lang to do it to you since you’ve done it before…=D
fratboi02 at Nov 28, 07 at 12:06 pm
open relationship would never work out. nothing in this world would make me share my partner to anyone. its betrayal. i dont think there’s such thing as open relationship only intimacy. that’s all you want. face the consequences and move on.
luckyclover12 at Dec 26, 07 at 5:46 pm
Hi, Max, what cruise ship company are you connected? We may have crossed paths. I’m always on board international cruise ship. Wanna have exchanges of notes? – solteroaqui@yahoo.com
Ernest The Adventurer at Sep 9, 08 at 11:31 am
what else can you, or shall i say, we do hehehe. this is our life, just don’t be too engrossed with emotions. just enjoy. you too can also be “open,” you can always find better guys than him.
dave at Oct 24, 08 at 3:47 pm
move on is the best advice. learn from your “open relationship” experience and make sure it will never happen to the next guy you’ll be with. kakaloka talaga ang buhay ng mga bading hahahahaha!!!!!!!
Raymond at Jan 2, 09 at 7:25 pm
get yourself tested…
Roy at Apr 14, 09 at 3:45 pm
wow where in the same shoe ah,my friend told me to move on but i cant i do love him inspite of all the things that he has done to me Mahl ko p din xa ganun tlga cguro tanga tlga ako bkit kailangan png mag mahal at masaktan?
mj at May 2, 09 at 6:18 pm
MJ ganon talaga, pag dating sa pag mamahal wala matalino,lahat tayo nagiging tanga pero kailangang din natin mag isip…
Khey at Dec 2, 09 at 6:30 pm