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Papalit-palit, Palipat-lipat
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Grabe, nakakatuwa talaga ang mundo. Kanina I was just browsing Facebook. Dahil feature ng Facebook yung nagsa-suggest ng “People You May Know” I saw the profile of this guy, let’s call him Allen. What made me smile was that his profile pic was a very sweet image of him and his girlfriend. Let me repeat that. GIRLfriend. Babae ang karelasyon nito. Babae. Girlalu, obaryo, fallopian tube, bilat, vagina monologue. I whispered to myself, “ahhh… babae na pala talaga ang gusto niya ngayon.” Napangiti talaga ako, kasi naman, may history ito. Officemate ko kasi dati yang si Allen. Ang nakakatuwa nito, kilala ko na siya bago ko pa man siya naging officemate. At alam ko na ang likaw ng bituka niya.
Schoolmate niya ang jowa ko noon (na tatawagin nating Jowa sa salaysay na ito). Sa UP Diliman sila pareho nag-aral. Sa isang subject na nag-require sa kanila na magsulat ng isang position paper, kinailangan nilang maghanap ng ka-partner. Sa madaling salita, si Jowa at si Allen ang naging magka-partner.
Si Jowa at si Allen ay parehong lalakeng-lalake. Sa pagkilos, pananamit, at pagsasalita. Kaya walang problema. Pero si Jowa, may kakaibang talento sa pang-amoy. Anlakas ng radar niya, ng tinatawag na gaydar. Walang senyales pero pakiramdam niya noon, may kakaibang hilig si Allen. Hindi lang talaga niya ma-confirm. Pero tulad ng inaasahan, nauwi ang project na ito sa mga overnight-overnightan. Doon niya nakilala ng husto si Allen, pati na ang misteryo sa likod ng macho guwapitong imahe nito. Mahilig din pala siya sa mga guwapo.
Sa mga overnight-overnightan nila nangyari ang mga dapat mangyari. Kaya’t ayon kay Jowa, tunay na kabaro ang kanyang kaklaseng si Allen. Nagpatuloy ang kanilang sexcapades, even after matapos i-submit ang position paper. Natigil lang ito ng mabalitaan ni Jowa na nagka-girlfriend si Allen. At ito ay si Cheryl, ang babaeng bestfriend ni Jowa. Walang problema yun kay Jowa. Inintindi na lamang niya na baka dala lang ng bugso ng pagnanasa ang mga namagitan sa kanila ni Allen. Hindi sinabi ni Jowa kay Cheryl ang nakaraan nila ni Allen. Pero pagkatapos lamang ng ilang buwan, nag-break din sina Allen at Cheryl. Nagpatuloy naman ang friendship ni Jowa at Allen — although hindi naikuwento ni Jowa kung nagpatuloy rin ang kanilang nocturnal activities.
Matapos ang ilang taon, pare-pareho nang nag-graduate sina Jowa, Cheryl, at Allen. Noon ko nakilala si Jowa, at naging kami na nga. Isang gabi, habang magkasama kami ni Jowa, narinig kong may kausap siya sa cellphone. Si Allen. Pinakausap sa akin ni Jowa si Allen, basta lang daw, para lang daw makausap ko ang dating boyfriend ng bestfriend niyang si Cheryl. Go, sabi ko. “Hi, Allen,” pambungad na bati ko sa kanya, “kamusta?”
Sa kabilang linya, sumagot si Allen: “Migs… ok naman. Ganda ng boses mo ah. Guwapo ka ba?”
Natawa na lang ako. Hindi ko na matandaan kung ano pa ang napag-usapan namin sa maigsing phonecall na iyon. Basta ang di ko malimutan eh ang interes ni Allen na malaman kung guwapo nga ba ang kausap niya.
Nang maging mag-officemate kami, noon ko lamang nasilayan ang itsura ni Allen. Mestisuhin. Di katangkaran, pero may dating. Bad boy look. Pero makinis, in fairness. Delicious looking, kumbaga. Pero siyempre dahil self-imposed rule ko nga ang “No Office Romance” keber ang beauty niya sa akin. Hanggang tango at ngiti lang kami. Ni hindi ko alam kung alam niya na ako yung nakausap niya sa telepono.
Nag-resign si Allen matapos ang ilang taon, habang ako ay nanatili sa kumpanya. Ngayong gabi, nakita ko ulit ang Allen, sa Facebook, at iyun nga, sweet na sweet na naman pala sa isang mujer, sa isang tunay na mujer.
May nabasa ako sa kungsaan, sinasabing ang sekswalidad daw, specifically ang sexual preference ay fluid. Maaring sa ilang tao, masasabi nilang sila ay siguradong-siguradong lalake, o siguradong-siguradong bading, ngunit may pagkakataon din namang may mga taong mas fluid ang preference. Sa pananaw ko, nabibilang si Allen sa kategoryang ito. Fluid Sexuality. Maaaring papalit-palit, palipat-lipat.
Nakaka-intriga, di ba? Siyempre naisip ko rin, “nage-enjoy din kaya talaga siya sa babae? O cover girl lang si girl, as in panakip-butas?” I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, kasi mukhang in love naman talaga sila ni mujer. Talaga sigurong fluid lang ang sexuality niya. Talaga lang sigurong maari siyang papalit-palit ng gusto, palipat-lipat ng kampo.
Ikaw, giliw na mambabasa ko… may kilala ka rin bang tulad ni Allen? Sa tingin mo ba’y pupuwede ngang FLUID ang sexuality? Maaari nga bang minsa’y gusto ng isa ay lalake, at pagkaminsa’y babae naman? Ano sa tingin mo?
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I can’t say I buy that bi-thing, pero as far as I can tell, it’s very, very subjective area. Like being gay is something we just go through. A phase that comes along with puberty, and that people shrug it off. I disagree, because I know what I am, and I know what I want. Pero that doesn’t mean it happens to everyone else. What we know is and may just be our perception of our own reality, which can be true or false.
Kenneth at Jan 24, 09 at 10:54 pm
ako ganyan! have a steady GF right now for 2 years but before that 3 naging BF ko…fluid sexuality??? i guess if thats what you call it…i’ve given up on labelling myself a long time ago.
marco at Jan 24, 09 at 11:22 pm
I have the same story.
Byron at Jan 25, 09 at 12:48 am
May ilan na ring tao akong nakikilala na sinasabi nilang gusto nila ng babae o lalaki- gay nga ng sinasabi mo – may fluid sexuality.
Ilang taon na rin akong nagtatrabaho sa ibang bansa, at may ilang lalaking ibang lahi na rin akong nakasiping na nagsasabing gusto pa rin nila ng babae, sa katunayan ang iba sa kanila ay may asawa pa. Kung titingnan mo rin naman, wala ring bahid ng kabaklaan. Ang hindi ko maintindihan, kung talagang mahal nila ang kanilang asawa, at kung talagang gusto nila ng babae, bakit nga ba naghahanap pa rin sila ng lalaki? May kakaibang excitement ba ang naidudulot ng pakikipagtalik sa kapwa lalaki na hindi kaya ibigay ng babae, o sadyang itinatago lamang nila ang tunay nilang nararamdaman?
Sa aking pananaw, walang “fluid”. Kaplastikan lamang ito ng ating mga kafatid na hindi matanggap ang kanilang mga sarili kaya’t itinatago nila ang kanilangm ga sarili sa palda ng kanilang mga babaeng kapareha. Maaring mali ako, maaring totoong may nararamdaman nga silang pag-ibig, pero naaawa pa rin ako sa mga babaeng nagagamit lamang ng mga lalaki para pagtakpan ang kanilang tunay na kagustuhan.
Ang sa akin din, kung hindi naman pinagsasabay ng mga “ateng” ang kanilang pakikipagrelasyon sa kahit ano pa mang kasarian, eh wala namang isyu. Sino ba talaga tayo para husgahan kung lalaki o babae ba ang gusto ng isang lalaki o ng babae? Dapat walang bounderies ang pag-ibig. Basta wala kang nasasaktan, ang masasabi ko lang – go girl!
ares in UAE at Jan 25, 09 at 2:32 am
I believe in the fluidity of sexuality.
Paul de la Cruz at Jan 25, 09 at 4:50 am
maybe, kung si rustom padilla nga, i mean si bebe gandanghari nga e, dati si rustom padilla na asawa ni carmina villaruel, e ngayon isa ng bebe gandanghari, hu knows, after a few years, me-realize niya na mali ang ginawa niya at gusto na ulit niyang bumalik sa pagiging lalaki…
carl at Jan 25, 09 at 4:56 am
i guess dito n pumapasok yun true meaning ng bisexuality…he is attracted to both male and female.atleast di niya pinagsasabay na guys and girls ata time,maybe now girl and and after nila boy naman hehe.
maccallister at Jan 25, 09 at 5:05 am
FLUID ang sexuality?
ang alam ko pareho masarap ka sex ang babae at lalake
nag kakatalo na lang yun kong gaano sila kagaling…
and wala namang masama dun diba? basta dapat ma satisfy
mo partner mo! yun ang mahalaga!!
jay vee at Jan 25, 09 at 7:37 am
yep migs…..ako lol… I love women but i also like to be with men. Sabi nga, enjoy both worlds. And i did, enjoyed both, and my gf is not a cover girl coz i really love her. It just so happened that sometimes i have an itch to do it with men. Kaya sa akin,oo naman, yang fluid personality eh puedeng puede talaga, ewan ko lang sa iba.
neil at Jan 25, 09 at 8:31 am
fluid sexuality pala hehe sorry..
neil at Jan 25, 09 at 8:33 am
@Kenneth: I love your ending lines, “…I know what I am, and I know what I want. Pero that doesn’t mean it happens to everyone else. What we know is and may just be our perception of our own reality, which can be true or false.”
Agree! World Peace!
migs at Jan 25, 09 at 8:39 am
@Byron: do share!
migs at Jan 25, 09 at 8:40 am
Tonette Macho. Need I say more?
Mikey_Liling at Jan 25, 09 at 9:32 am
Marami na talaga nangyari sa buhay ko buhat ng pumasok ako sa site nato,pero kahit ganon marami rin ako na tutunan at naranasan sa kabila ng mga bagay,na patuloy kung ginagawa at gagawin eto parin ako pinag papatuloy ang gawaing madalas kung sinasabing ayoko na at titigilan ko na ngunit, sino nga ba ang makapagsasabing kailangan na nating tumigil at mag pahinga,hindi bat malaking porsiento ng katauhan natin ang nagtutulak na gawin natin to.
Sino bang tama at sinong mali, sinong perpekto at sinong hindi, basta mahalaga masaya tayo,[ako] hindi ko kailangn hadlangan ang mga bagay na nagdudulot sakin ng kasiyahan,dahil ang pakiramdam na maging malaya ay walang katumbas na halaga………
i’m very happy and i feel that I’ve lived a blessed life.
most of all, a great part of my contentment comes from god. you know, its important that someone loves you and that you also love someone, if you really think about it, the true sign of happiness is when you give to people you care for………
yan ang nakalagay sa isa mga ko acct kung ano yung pag kakapaliwanag ko dian yan ang comment ko………… MAGANDA TALAGA UN KWENTO MO HE HE HE
lean at Jan 25, 09 at 10:19 am
OPSS……….SORRY
YAN ANG NAKALAGAY SA ISA SA MGA ACCT KO KUNG ANO YUNG PAGKAKAPALIWANAG KO DIAN YAN ANG COMMENT KO
lean at Jan 25, 09 at 10:24 am
ako ewan ko ha.. i have a friend for 12 years na baklang bakla talaga!! as in screaming bayot talaga.. lahat ng lalaki pinapatos.. tapos last month nagkita kami, nabigla ako kasi naging bhoy na ciya!! hahaha wat happened??
me gf na daw cya!! nagtaka talaga ako.. kasi between naming dalawa, di hamak na mas bading sya sa akin yun.. as in talaga.. tapos just the other day nalaman ko, naging born again christian pala.. sabi ko ganun, kaya pala!!
natatawa nlang akoh.. basta ako i’m happy kung ano ako, kaya sige lang sige..
alam ko kung sino ako at alam ko rin kung ano at sino ang gusto ko!!!!
more power migs..
frozzen at Jan 25, 09 at 11:13 am
i believe in fluid sexuality. but i also believe na may hangganan din ang fluidity.
ming at Jan 25, 09 at 11:28 am
marami nyan dito sa cebu..pero mas lamang talaga yung kagustuhan nila na makipag sex sa kapwa lalaki..para kumbag 60-40 ang percentage..bakla pa rin..ok ok…”fluid sexuality” pala…
mellicious at Jan 25, 09 at 12:00 pm
I do agree with this post although i don’t have all the authority to say it coz wala pa naman akong girl na nakarelasyon (sexual man o mey involve na love).
Here’s mine to tell. I already have sex with several men kaso patago siya. Patago kasi i don’t want anyone, specially my friends, family, and coworkers to know that I like guys. They viewed me as this single guy who’s just waiting around for some girl to marry kasi stable na rin naman ang job ko.
And here’s the twist. I don’t know if I really like girls but back then in high school marami akong close encounter with girls. hehehh. i have crush with several of the grils in my batch, marami kasi silang magaganda. i did even flirt with one of the girls, unfortunately meron siyang boyfriend that time. Meron na rin akong naka-date minsan sa intramurals namin, sa “love booth” kaso hindi ko na pinatulan. Siya namna iyong parang humahabol sa akin, eh. Vavavooom siya but i just don’t feel like dancing with her.
And now sa office namin, I have this close friend na kamuntik ko ng ligawan kasi I really like her and ayokong paglaruan lang siya ng ibang guys na ka-officemate namin. I still am thinking of courting her right now.
Sometimes, hindi ko lang namamalayn na I’m thinking na pala of having a family, having my dream house, having kids, what to teach the kids, and what to do with my future wife. hehehhhh.
That’s my story.
jade at Jan 25, 09 at 12:10 pm
it is unfair to say that people who prefer to play both fields as plastik. and that im doing this as a cover up. to the person who said that i hate to burst your bubble but its a NO. I’m fortunate to have a girlfriend and circle of friends who love me as I am. alam ng GF ko and i have been very open about it. i have been a faithful boyfriend for two years, i love her so much and our sex life is great. kanya kanyang hilig or preference lang yan. what may be true for me may not apply to anyone else. like i said on my first comment, i’ve pretty much given up on LABELS for a long time now.
marco at Jan 25, 09 at 2:17 pm
hmmm may kakilala akong ganyan. ex-officemate ko. may nakapgasabing ‘trying to be straight’ daw siya. and to think na may feelings ako sa kanya, eh may fiance na siya na bilat. wawa ang beauty ko. hehehe.
pero, i do know may pagtingin din yong ‘allen’ na yon sa akin…
‘kung kayo, kayo’ ika nga nila. kaya for now, naughty muna…. hehehehe
magman at Jan 25, 09 at 2:19 pm
I believe fluid sexuality, not much in bisexuality, coz for you to call yourself bi- you need to have equal attraction to both genders at the same time, not because you were once attracted to female and now males, classify you as a bisexual… and I do believe that it can switch, that’s why its called sexual preferrence, but at some point, I think you will stick to the one that will work for you the best…
carl at Jan 25, 09 at 3:05 pm
Tama ka, Marco — siguro yung nire-refer nung iba na “plastik” ay yung mga unfaithful, yung may boyfriend na, may girlfriend pa. That’s unfaithfulness, regardless of gender. Yun ang masasabi kong mali. Pero kung at any one point eh faithful ka sa girlfriend mo, kahit pa na may attraction ka sa boys, keber lang. Go ka lang.
migs at Jan 25, 09 at 3:06 pm
Kay dami-daming kulay ang bahaghari. Me nagsusumigaw na pink, me mapushaw na red na aakalain mong pink kung me jumojogsak ka palagi sa Ishahara, me orange and violet and blue. Mantakin mo, meron din palang nagmimilagrong blue kung taglamig at pink kung tag-init! But no matter by whatever color they go, superslide pa rin sila lahat sa rainbow.
v at Jan 25, 09 at 3:07 pm
i believe in the fluidity of sexuality. and kahit na nagladlad na ko recently sa parents at sa iba’t-ibang circle of friends ko, i still don’t consider myself purely gay. bi pa rin ang tingin ko sa sarili. not because i hate the “tag or label” but because i still do find myself attracted to women from time to time. we’ll never know talaga. mamaya pag-gising mo iba na ang ihip ng hangin.
anyway thanks for sharing this to us migs and to the other readers as well, andaming nababasag na stereotypes dahil sa site na to.
pao-pao bear at Jan 25, 09 at 3:35 pm
It reminded me of the movie Matrix.
Elyong at Jan 25, 09 at 6:04 pm
You’re right, labels set limitations and they always fall short in describing people.
Elyong at Jan 25, 09 at 6:07 pm
I want to quote Kenneth:
“I know what I am, and I know what I want. Pero that doesn’t mean it happens to everyone else.”
and Marco:
“i’ve given up on labelling myself a long time ago”
Elyong at Jan 25, 09 at 6:11 pm
I just met a young Lithuanian guy last night, he has a gf but we had sex. He said he is in love with his girlfriend but he cant do anything about his lust for men.
espanyol27 at Jan 25, 09 at 6:30 pm
I don’t know much about this case but I do bleieve that we have our own preferences. We do konw whether we like boys more than girls or vice-versa. Sometimes, circumstances or situations make it appear that we like one more than the other but if we go back to ourselves and ask ourselves, then we know the answer. Some people choose one because of some reasons (conveniece, pressures, family etc.) but taking aside everything, can they honestly say that they prefer one from the other? The bottom line is, ther’s no such thing as 50-50. There maybe 60-40 or 55-45 and we know who we are and what we prefer.
ric at Jan 25, 09 at 7:15 pm
well world peace,, its just so amazing hearing ideas, point of views to a wide genre of personalities,,, this is how the world have evolved in all aspect, how we think and how we respond…. world peace!!!!!!! truly human brain is the most powerful amongst other…
jason romero at Jan 25, 09 at 7:39 pm
If Allen fell in love with Jowa; then, Allen is gay…but if Allen did it for fun; he’s Bi.
=)
peppoi at Jan 25, 09 at 10:18 pm
I’m inclined to say that I don’t personally subscribe to having a ‘fluid sexuality’. But then again, that only goes for myself. I can’t speak for other people as their experiences and feelings are not mine.
It may be true that there are those who are genuinely bisexual (or has a fluid sexuality, what’s the difference migs? don’t they kinda overlap?) and then there are those who hide behind the label due to the fear of being labeled ‘gay’.
The LGBT community is diverse and multi-faceted. All I know is this: we all, at some point in time, searched for acceptance and understanding. Whether we got it or not, I think it we should be supportive of other members of the community who doesn’t exactly fit into a single label. Whether or not there is such a thing as fluid sexuality or not, hindi natin sila dapat i-persecute because we find the very idea odd.
I say, live and let live. Sabi nga sa ‘Get Real’: “It’s just love… what is everybody so afraid of?” As long as walang nasasaktan at naapakan, bakit naman hindi?
Ngayon, kung pagsasabayin ang lalaki at babae, o ang pagtatago ng sexual preference… well, ibang usapan na yun.
Oliver at Jan 25, 09 at 10:58 pm
as much as i agree on the fluidity of sexuality, p’wede ring he’s just in the closet for whatever reason.
rustcell at Jan 25, 09 at 11:55 pm
i can agree with fluidity issue pero kawawa naman ung purely homosexual na magmamahal ng isang may fluid sexuality… kayo ngayon then baka paggising mo tomorrow di ka na nya gusto kasi may girl na syang nagustuhan… ang hirap naman ata makipagrelasyon sa mga katulad nila na any moment magpapalit ng sexual preference…
keeiko at Jan 26, 09 at 12:04 am
lahat ng fluid nagiging solid at nageevaporate un lang un
faolo at Jan 26, 09 at 1:27 am
for a quite a time i dont buy that ‘bi’ thing, i find it ridiculous. how can someone be attracted to both sexes? even though im not a shouting fag and i dress and act manly, i consider myself gay simply because i find myself attracted to men. i once had a relationship with a relatively dicreet gay 4 years ago. it ended bcoz eventually he got married to his gf. while we we were together i never heard he labeled himself ‘bi’. We both know we’re gays, no alibis.
but lately my views on this ‘bi’ thing has changed. im kinda like in a detour right now. i am attracted to a girl, and it’s something that’s not even forced. and im seriously thinking of taking a shot at this old college friend. so what prompted me to this shift? fluid sexuality, as you guys call it, perhaps….
Or maybe the need for intimacy… maybe what i really want is someone i can call “my own” after years of one-night stands and casual dating with the same sex.
neo neo at Jan 26, 09 at 1:28 am
For me lang ha, it’s not about sexuality, it’s about FEELINGS.
gelmark at Jan 26, 09 at 2:46 am
ewan ko sainyo! basta i like fluid!
Marc at Jan 26, 09 at 10:25 am
nakakarelate ako!
rodier at Jan 26, 09 at 12:08 pm
Ang aking kwento naman ay ganito: Marami akong naging crush na lalake nuong nasa kolehiyo pa.I didn’t have any sexual encounters during those days. Then I met this girl who I consider as the girl of my dream. I got obsessed wth her to the point of bringing a binocular to school so I could catch her face every single day. I befriend her friends and hence secretely took her address.After college , we parted ways.
Up to now, an image of my future family flashes on my mind – she is my wife and we have children.
I think of her when I jerk off.What pains me is she doesn’t have a Friendser account!
Now, I am single and free to have sex with any man I like but I told myself, if ever I meet her, I am ready to give up every gay bone inside me.
Kaplastikan o ka-weirdohan?
Asyano at Jan 26, 09 at 2:44 pm
that’s a sad story.
hindi kasi me naniniwala sa konsepto ng bisexuality, but i don’t have anything against you guys ok? (I’m sorry pero personal opinion ko to ha…)
mas approve sa kin ung concept ng confused kesa sa bi.
it s either babae o lalaki lang ang pipiliin mo.
admit it!
‘di pwedeng dalawa, unfair ka na, ang damot mo pa (ano un pag nagsawa ka na sa lalaki, babae naman, wow heavy! I just don’t get the rationale)
kasi in the end, may lalabas na mas matimbang…
popspops at Jan 26, 09 at 4:02 pm
wooohooohhh… I LIKE that!
jade at Jan 26, 09 at 8:35 pm
kuya migs, may kilala talaga akong ganyan, actually, classmate ko siya ngayon sa college. naging jowa niya dati ang friend kong bi, after 6 years of relationship, naghiwalay sila…tapos drama ngayon ng classmate ko eh mujer na naman kanya feel…
ang masaklap pa niyan eh nung mga bata kami ng classmate kong yan ay sumasali yan sa amin sa mga little ms.gay na hilig natin diba nun…ewan ko lang, siguro totoo talaga and Fluid Sexuality!
in fairness, may thrill ang story ni Allen…
jed at Jan 26, 09 at 8:42 pm
hindi ako sold kay allen. gut feel ko front lang ang ‘fluid’ sexuality na yan. sorry sa ma-o-offend. opinyon ko lang.
Woodstock at Jan 26, 09 at 8:48 pm
Fluid or not, it all boils down to the fact that we are who we are regardless of the labels, biases & judgments that others have on us… Or that sometimes, even we have on ourselves. Moreover, I believe it is so much more important that we stay true to how we feel & learn to love (or lose) without having to compromise our being, & without trampling on anyone else’s.
june at Jan 27, 09 at 2:44 am
yan ang tinatawag na individual differences..kanya kanyang pananaw yan at kanya kanyang diskarte.
gelmark at Jan 27, 09 at 3:00 am
sila ang tunay na bisexuals in the sense they like boys and girls they can be for both, yung mga bisexual dito satin bayot din kasi lalaki lang ang hanap, bigyan mo ng puday ang sasabihin nila yuck!
butterflyrhai at Jan 27, 09 at 11:14 am
Hay! Naku…..your just making some excuses and alibis.
Little Fish at Jan 27, 09 at 12:02 pm
ahhmm… lahat nman nagba2go kaya posibleng my ganyan tlga. isa pa hndi bat nabanggit sa taas na discreet nman yung guy so bkit pa niya kelangang kumuha ng babae just to cover up his green blood diba? bka nman mahal tlga niya yung babae….
shikon_boy015 at Jan 28, 09 at 12:41 pm
“lahat ng fluid nagiging solid at nageevaporate” …. I agree
japz at Jan 28, 09 at 12:46 pm
We cannot tell but not never. But for me, he’s bi. I agree with what magman said that ‘Allen’ is just ‘trying-to-be-straight’.
Actually, I know someone likewise, but I’m not so sure if he’s a straight guy or whatever. Now, he says he has a girlfriend, but still I don’t believe him. Because of that, I was brokenhearted because I have an unrequited love for him. For sure, he knows that; it’s obvious with my actions.
Kudos!!
Patrick at Jan 28, 09 at 5:13 pm
It is!
For most people, that is.
Pronghorn at Jan 30, 09 at 10:08 am
Mukhang mainit pa rin yang “bisexual/fluid” discussion na ‘yan ah? Kahit saang forum may bersyon ng diskusyong ito. Ang ’sama niyan, puro personal testimonials (na malamang may kinikilingan) at kulang sa *tunay* at masiyasat na pagsusuri.
This I got from a co-forumer who till this day I admire for his sense and brilliance:
“Whether one believes or not it does not change the fact that the phenomenon exists.
“The better question is: Do you accept bisexuality in the same vein as heterosexuality and homosexuality.
“The problem really lies with overt homosexuals who accuse bisexuals as being untrue and ilusyonada (God knows why) and with sarado heterosexuals who cannot accept the fact that one can get an erection with both male and female partners (again, only God knows why).
“It does not matter what one commits to be the rest of his life. What we all want is the freedom and independence to do so without other people having to tell you how else to live your life or pass judgement on your actions and decisions.
[Q: so you mean to say, to be a bisexual , the gay group has no right to call them paminta liar hypocrite etc..?]
“No, that’s their right just as it is our right to answer back by calling them faggots. Bad word ‘no. Same goes for words like nigger, homo, ho, cunt and puta. Its very degrading. Political correctness stems from a desire to be respected.
“Its really all about sensitivity.
“So if you are really up to it then call a bisexual bading or liar or hypocrite. Then bili ka ng yelo para ilagay sa mukha mo after ka masapak.
“For every action there is a consequence. Some less pleasant than others. So, I think, the golden rule applies: do unto others what you want to be done unto you.”
Or as Migs would say: world peace.
It’s not just the LGBT “faction” that’s diverse and multifaceted, it’s the rest of humanity and nature. We are not pre-sorted by [the] God[s] into neat heterosexual and homosexual baskets when we are born.
Pronghorn at Jan 30, 09 at 11:20 am
ok migs i me situation lang naman ako.
say this guy admitted to me that he’s gay,
and yes we did go there, you know na!
pero right now he has a GF so i don’t really
get that, i refused to ask him naman kasi
its not really my business, he’s not really
out of the closet talaga when he told me
could it be that he’s just using her to cover
his kabaklaan? LOL, i asked the girl kasi close naman
kami and you know naman here sa states very open
sa maga hada and everything she told me the farthest they
have gone is kissing lang daw so yan Kung di pa yan kaplastikan
di ko na alam.. pretensyosa ang lola mo! LOL
JEREMi at Jan 30, 09 at 6:57 pm
i do agree with that, love is love naman talaga diba?
and lust is kalandian, pero can it be na pag nag init ang katawan mo no matter who’s there go lang ng go? kasi ung iba may ganun daw na feeling eh..
JEREMi at Jan 30, 09 at 7:00 pm
Amen,Pronghorn
Asyano at Jan 31, 09 at 12:54 pm
This is my very first time to comment in this site and i’m kinda worried what would other will react but this is just a personal idea about the matter:
Lets face the idea that every male was created out of xy chromosome pairing, kaya cguro mas marami sa atin ang may “lady feeling” as compared to the other gender. And maybe, this has a great contribution of what we call “fluid sexuality”, na may time (for some cguro, most or d naman all the time) talaga na nangingibabaw ang pagiging girl kaya he acts as one, meaning, nangingibabaw ang x sa y… and the rest of the time, mas lumulutang ang pagiging machismo nia.
In fairness with the man mentioned above, maybe, there are some instances that he was “aroused” with a certain thing in a man and the rest in a woman, relationship doesnt only mean sex, it’s just a part of it…
What i just want to give emphasis on this is, how can we handle those we people that will be affected directly/indirectly for such “fluid sexuality” act.
Xenxa na po if lalo kau naconfuse…
wolfmaster at Jan 31, 09 at 2:48 pm
correction: can we handle those people… not “those we people”… sorry!
wolfmaster at Jan 31, 09 at 2:50 pm
Fluid sexuality? Hmm…interesting…
Clark Can't at Feb 2, 09 at 5:15 am
oo naman… marmai akong alam na ganitong kwento.. wahahaha.. eh kwento ko nga din ito!!!! waaahahahahaha.. the point is… fluid… as in fluid mosaic ang sexuality sa point of view ko… at malamang pati ng iba… e kung kanino ba tumirada ng sulak ang hormones mo, e kung matapat sa lalaki, sa babae, sa shemale, kahit kanino pa.. well.. its all in the mind… its a state of mind… (^_^)
stephen at Feb 10, 09 at 8:54 am
This is very interesting. My story; May mga kaganapan na akala ko nandidiri ako sa babae. ni sa imahinasyon ayoko. Pero dumating ako sa edad na 23, napagtanto ko na kaya ko at may mga panahon na nagpaparaos ako na babae ang pinapantasya ko. Hindi ko alam at naiintindihan kung ano ang tunay na nararamdaman ko, kung ano ba talaga ako. Nagkaroon ako ng mga karelasyon sa kapwa ko lalaki. Pero sa lahat ng karelasyon ko, ni isa wala akong ginawang katulad ng ginagawa nila. Sinusuwerte ako at lahat ng nakukuha ko ay pumapayag sa ganung pagsasama. Pag kami ay nasa kama na, kung ano ang gagawin nya sakin, hindi ko pwedeng gawin sa kanya. Namulat ako sa mga sinasabi nilang TOP & BOTTOM. Sabi nila top daw ako. Pero naranasan ko na rin ang gawin ang ginagawa ng isang tunay ba binabae. Ang makipagtalik sa isang tunay na lalake (straight). Syempre, ako dapat ang magtrabaho. Pero malimit kong tinatanong ang sarili ko kung nag-eenjoy ba ko, lamang ang hindi an sagot sa katanungan ko. Ewan ko, nakakalito.
jazz at Feb 11, 09 at 8:07 am
hello.. ako katulad ko msiguro si allen,. 21 years old po ako graduating na dis march..Almost 2 decades kong tinago ang sarili ko sa family, friends.. pero ngayun hindi ko na kaya, kailangan ko nang sabihin sa kanila ksi nga may nagawa ako sa isang barkada ko. nag OJT po kami sa maynila, lima kaming mag babarkada, they are not aware na bading ako. almost 2months po ang pagtira namin, magkakahiga kami sa pagtulog. isang gabi, talagang hindi ko na ma control ang sarili ko, I sexually harrast sa akin barkada. kala ko nun tulog siya. wala siyang kibo e. kaumagahan parang walang nangyari.
after 8 months, cinonfront na niya ako about sa ginawa ko sa kanya one night, gising daw siya nun pero natatakot o nahihiya niyang sabihin kasi ayaw daw niyang masira ang pagkakaibigan namin. that time ko lang na open na bading ako sa clasmate namin. Unti unti ko nang pinapakilala ang sinu ako. ang kinakatakotan ko ngayun ay paanu kung malaman nilang hinarras ko siya?. guys please give me me an advice. baka magpapakamatay ako pag nalamn ng buong classe namin… panu ko itu isosolve?. nalam na nag ilang barkada ko ang nangyari wala na akong kaibigan. tulungan niyo naman ako. please. thanks
jaycee2387 at Feb 11, 09 at 2:58 pm
napansin ko nga un.. bakit kaya?
cmcc_boi at Feb 11, 09 at 10:13 pm
pwede nga siguro..
meron akong naging friend(Childhood)
hes gay talaga,,as in
mas dalaga pa nga sya sa akin kumilos, tas ang mga hilig ibang level. Inaayusan nya ako dati,gamit ang make-up nang mama nya. hehe syempre tuwang-tuwa naman ang lola nyo. Since elementary at high school,palagi kaming magkasama, nood ng mga pageant na nakahiligin ko na din dahil sa kanya(mostly guy pageants)ahaha. He told me everything about his crush and his “sexual dreams” and i do so,,ewan ko pero mas gay pa talaga sya sa akin.Nong nag-colege na kami,,di na kami schoolmate ksi s cebu xa nag-aral. Di na rin kami masyado nag-usap. Tas nung 2ndyr college kami. Nkita ko ang lola nyo, nkabihis panlalaki. tas ang dating wace na pang beauty queen, umiba nah,, at tango na lang ang pagbati. Naluka talaga ako, tinanong ko xa qng anung sumpa ang nangyari sa kanya. Di man lang sumagot. At ang nakagulantang sa akin, pinakilala nya ang GF nya..wew,,parang gusto kong sabunutan ang gaga. Pero inintendi ko na lang dahil friends naman kmi,,.
pero feeeling ko talaga,,cover girl lang si gf,,
nu sa palagay nyo????hmmmm
gay_palaboy at Apr 8, 09 at 5:36 pm
Sexuality doesn’t have boundaries ergo the fluidity of sex. In this age of awareness, sex would have to be just a case of pleasure to be experienced by man through the opposite or same sex. Nowadays, men dont care anymore about labels. What is important is the sexual expression and appreciation with/for another human being.
jhay-arr at Apr 20, 09 at 10:49 am
sexual preference doesnt indulge your true identity. if you are straight, happy married family man, thinking to look forward for a girl only, doesnt mean that making love with men or gays shows your true identity without hesitation that you are also very GAY. It just some straight guys having an affair with gays are happy enough to explore their sexual adventures, because gays knows where the most part of orgasm of men are… im gay and i dont deny it, my partner is a happy married family man, it is between understanding and acceptance only.
amino at Jun 16, 09 at 8:03 pm