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07

The Need to be Touched by a Man

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Based on my own experience, and judging from the popularity of massage/masseur-related posts here (e.g., this post with more than a thousand comments, and this other, newer one also gathering hundreds of comments and counting), it seems that we gay guys have a deep need, I would say a very well entrenched primordial need, to be touched by another man.

You go to a spa, a lady masseuse does her job very well, but you think, there’s something missing. And then you go to a so-so, rinky-dinky massage place and choose a masseur — while he doesn’t do a much better job than the lady masseuse, you know somehow that the masseur touches you just the right way. It’s crazy. But really, what is happening here?

Is this primordial need, if it indeed is, borne out of a common past experience, say a father who did not know how to express love by touching? Or perhaps, an effect too of growing up in a society that is quite fine seeing girls walk holding hands, yet at the same time gets scandalized when it’s two boys doing just the same? These and more, that make being touched by another man, even in a dark secluded place such as a massage parlor’s cramped cubicle, so much a pleasure? A torrent of pleasure that releases not only bodily but psychological tensions as well?

What do you think?

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77 Comments So Far

  1. so to put it bluntly… malibog tlaga tayo? haha im kidding. :)

    pacific-0 at Jun 7, 09 at 4:03 pm

  2. Hi Migs,

    There are hundreds of thousand ways to interpret this psychoanalytically but the grain truth of the matter is touching is requisite to sexual arousal and satisfaction, may it be hetero or homo. Tantric no-touch notwithstanding. It’s the simple truth. Others are mere details.

    Derek R. at Jun 7, 09 at 5:20 pm

  3. @Pacific- hindi naman. we just need…comfort. hahaha etchos!

    herbs at Jun 7, 09 at 5:22 pm

  4. It crossed my mind before that it’ll probably be very profitable if I work as a masseuse in NYC but then I am certain I don’t have the type of personality required of one :D

    Ono at Jun 7, 09 at 5:27 pm

  5. baka naman wit massage ang hanap teh… hihihihihi

    Yj at Jun 7, 09 at 7:52 pm

  6. I LOVE massages and I have one almost every week. I have given this thought and this is simple:

    Gay guys love men.
    Masseurs = Men
    Men = Excitement
    Excitement = Release of Endorphins + Epinephrine
    Endorphins = Feeling of Relaxation
    Epinephrine = Excitement
    Massage = Releases Endorphins

    Therefore: Massage + Masseur = Endorphins x2 + Epinephrine = Exstacy!

    Broken_Heart at Jun 7, 09 at 8:14 pm

  7. Broken + Heart = Malibog! hahaha

    pustiso at Jun 7, 09 at 10:04 pm

  8. Just want to share this not so good experience I had a week ago when I went to this MP near Hollywood (West Ave.. First, nagpunta muna ako sa Hollywood, unfortunately, wala akong nagustuhan so I jumped to Body Spec or Body Physique ba yan? I really can’t recall its name paki correct na lang ako basta yung malapit sa Hollywood. May nataypan ako in short sya na nga kaso nawawala na yung massage service na binayaran ko dahil umpisa pa lang ES na agad ang binabanggit at kapag pumayag ka na mamadaliin na ang pagmamasahe as in wala na halos masahe. Sana makarating ito sa management ng MP na yan na pagsabihan ang mga masahista nila na antayin nila sa customer manggaling ang request for ES hindi sila ang magtatanong at magconcentrate muna sila sa pagmamasahe unless yung mismong customer ang atat na atat sa ES dun lang sila dapat magrespond. Tulad ko walang quem type ko ang ES pero gusto ko rin ng masahe lalo na’t pagod ako I need some relaxation before anything else.

    olin at Jun 7, 09 at 11:52 pm

  9. So far, ang recommendable sakin ay Hilom kasi several times na akong nagpunta dyan at di sila nasira sakin sa masahe although nagtatanong din sila kung may ES pero yun ay kapag malapit ng matapos ang masahe at talagang lumakad na ang oras in short service is rendered dun sa binayaran mo sa counter at sulit, lahat sila type ko ang masahe (as in professional massage talaga with expertise ang ibibigay sayo) baka naman natitiyempohan ko lang. Meron nga akong nabasang di magandang comments sa Hilom pero lahat naman yan nakukuha sa arrangements o maayos na pag-uusap kong ayaw e di wag, wala namang pilitan dyan daanin lang lahat sa maayos at di nakaka-offend na pakikipag negotiate.

    Try ko sana ang Spartacus, may I know the exact location of this MP kasi mukhang magaganda ang nababasa kong comments.

    Thanks

    olin at Jun 8, 09 at 12:03 am

  10. In fairness naman sa MP (either Body Specs or Body Physique ba yan?) na malapit sa Hollywood WA maraming beauty at body beautiful talaga ang napansin ko at mga bagets pa konting polish lang sa pagbibigay ng main service which is massage I’m sure this will rank 1st.

    olin at Jun 8, 09 at 12:12 am

  11. ewan ko di ko pa na try magpa massage e baka manigas ako LOL!!!!

    maccallister at Jun 8, 09 at 12:32 am

  12. What a boring topic! Mga Masahista na naman ang topic siguro ginagawa ni Migs eto para ma-direct ng search engines sa website nya ang mga bakla at bi…

    Can we have other topics paulit ulit na lang etong masseurs, mp, at extra service na topic!!!!

    killersmile at Jun 8, 09 at 12:53 am

  13. Whenever I get touched by a man, even just being brushed by a male stranger standing in line or bumping into them while walking, ewan ko ba, I get instant hard-on.

    I think I’m just a total horndog lang talaga. hehe

    imladris at Jun 8, 09 at 2:10 am

  14. are gays really this perverted? do gays only think about perversions all the time?

    esteban at Jun 8, 09 at 4:41 am

  15. I agree… we all need to relax in a very – sensual way hahaha

    Kai at Jun 8, 09 at 6:58 am

  16. we are repressed as a whole.

    dan at Jun 8, 09 at 7:10 am

  17. @maccallister: may i say natawa ko sa comment mo, napaka honest! haha! :) )

    pacific-0 at Jun 8, 09 at 8:20 am

  18. @maccallister: may i say natawa ko sa comment mo, napaka honest! haha! :) )

    pacific-0 at Jun 8, 09 at 8:20 am

  19. Being objective about it, masseurs are generally better than masseuses because the former are stronger. I’ve had massages from the best and worst of spas and so-called spas, and had hotel and home service from the best and worst of call-in services. I could say that 90% of the masseurs satisfied and only 10% of the masseuses came close to their male counterparts.

    Pero pag hilot, mas magaling ang babae.

    jy at Jun 8, 09 at 12:34 pm

  20. As a masseur told me once, as a man, he knows where a man likes to be touched. A simple yet powerful truth don’t you guys think? :D

    Tony at Jun 8, 09 at 2:17 pm

  21. Encounter with fellow clients at
    CITY BAY SPA, across Coastal Mall, Paranaque City

    I went there yesterday for massage.
    The steam room was flooded with 3 hot-blooded young males. It seems they came from a gym located on the second floor. Their bodies were really fresh.. As I was absorbing all the steam heat, I was surprised to see 2 of the three guys kissed. Then the 3rd guy, blinked on me, grabbed my hand and placed in inside his towel. I know the drill, I replied by holding his dick. Then he kissed me. Grabe feeling. We did this for about 5 minutes until one old fat man joined us in the steam room.

    The guy whispered to my ears, “shower muna tayo.” So I left the steam room and went to shower. As I was about to close the curtains, the guy entered. He turned on the shower and gave me a firm hug. Ang sarap talaga. I asked for his name, he said “Joey.” Then sabi niya, labas muna siya. After around a minute, he went back and said, “may nakatinggin kaya di ako nakabalik agad.” Then he proceeded to kiss me and asked me to BJ him. I did, but he never came out of my mouth, ayoko nga… muna.

    After that we went again to the steam room and it was just the fat old man there. One of his two friends enetered the room and said, “Shower na kami, tapos pa-massage na. Mauna na kami.”

    After around 10 minutes, we both left the steam room and had to shower separately, there were eyes prying on us. On the dressing area, he asked me I’d like to join him in the couple room. I agreed. So he told the assistant to upgrade the room and he will just pay later.

    On the couple room, we our massage and it was great, mixed teases and touches here and there. I had LEO, a looker, good toned body, and erect dick pressing on my butt when opportunities would allow. He even blew air on my ears. After the one hour massage, the massauers left.

    Joey, then aksed me to join him in the shower room, and there we went and did another round of endless kisses and BJs. At aorund 15 minutes later, we left the room, dressed up and went to the reception area. As I was about to pay for my bills, he said, “Ako na muna, gamitin natin yung membership card ko so you can also get a discount.”

    On the elevator, he said, kain muna. I agreed, on the condition that I will pay the bills. Punta kami sa Blue Wave, along Macapagal Ave. We both have our own cars. Punta kami Pizza Hut. After that, it was already almost 10PM. He asked if I wanted to join him in his condo. Again, I agreed.

    To my surprise, the other two guys kissing inside the steam room were also there… Grabe na ito…
    (To be continued…)

    gordoncotoco at Jun 8, 09 at 4:16 pm

  22. masseurs do better massage than masseuses because, they, being males, themselves, know where their sensitive/erogenous areas are.

    markerik at Jun 8, 09 at 7:36 pm

  23. i liked the story of gondoncotoco… i have also been there pero wala naman gaano customers when i went there…

    june at Jun 8, 09 at 7:49 pm

  24. visit TA-MODE SPA.. superb!

    pustiso at Jun 8, 09 at 10:12 pm

  25. san yang ta-mode spa? location…..

    carlo at Jun 8, 09 at 10:21 pm

  26. migs, it’s been a long time since the last article. im so hooked with your blogs! i have suggestion, why don’t we create a directory of spas like these? no doubt, there is a clamor for good spas and this blog is again a sure fire hit. :)

    Leo at Jun 9, 09 at 5:46 am

  27. To June,

    Thanks for your comment. Should you like to join the four of us at CityBay, we will be there this weekend, possibly Sunday after lunch, around 1:30.

    Just tell the assistant that you are June, We’ll meet you there…

    gordoncotoco at Jun 9, 09 at 8:00 am

  28. I think gay guys are very sensorial-visceral. They need to see and touch things for themselves to experience satisfaction. Seeing is not enough, there must be touching – touching being the strongest of all the senses would send pleasure signals from our nerve tips all the way to our brain. Without stimulating the nerves, there will be no actual pleasure. Thus the need to touch, and be touched.

    And there’s a certain kind of guilty pleasure one gets out of touching. It’s when fantasy comes alive. You feel the power over men, you feel in control though you’re really not, and you feel that you are liked so much – even if just by touching.

    Men are very sensorial.

    little boy at Jun 9, 09 at 1:45 pm

  29. gordoncotoco…

    thanks for the invite…

    anyway I will be out of town on the weekend.

    maybe some other time…

    thanks again…

    June at Jun 9, 09 at 4:40 pm

  30. I’ll touch you whenever you want :)

    bluelightninglad at Jun 9, 09 at 5:18 pm

  31. It shouldn’t matter, male or female. Massage is a massage. But it matters. For both straight and gay massage parlors, hanky panky is not always a given but an assumed or always a probability. Some straight young boys get devirginized via massage parlors. So sa mga bading, mas prefer male. Eh si Samantha in an episode of Sex and the City had her thing with a hot masseur.

    Not much to analyze here. (Tapos nag analyze naman ako) :-) )

    ethan at Jun 9, 09 at 10:20 pm

  32. Let’s be careful when it comes to these places and these activities. A-H1N1 is spreading. Best to avoid in the meantime until the virus has passed or has stopped spreading.

    ethan at Jun 9, 09 at 10:23 pm

  33. aH1N1 is not that deadly. only less than 1% of those afflicted with the virus actually succumb. and more often than not, those that died are those with coexisting serious illnesses, or so the news claims. la lang, na-share ko lang. hehe

    markerik at Jun 9, 09 at 10:54 pm

  34. hi migs…yeah we G people needs to be touched by MEN…i believe it’s the same feeling like an infant who needs a caress…it’s really amazing how a simple even a tender touch could make a frosted ice snow G queen warmer…

    please read my recent (only yesterday night of monday) THAI GUY MASSEUR experience on my blog. here’s the link:
    http://manofdrose.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/jail-bird/

    Man of the Rose at Jun 10, 09 at 12:08 am

  35. katakot punta ng spa now dahil sa h1n1 karamihan pa namang mga parokyano dito eh mga rich na tipong ginagawang quiapo ang US, just like La Salle and Ateneo na mga richie rin therefore mga carrier din ng h1n1 ang mga guest now ng mga spa here.katakot!!!!!!!!!!

    jokjok at Jun 10, 09 at 12:22 am

  36. its all hormones guys!

    testosterone is the key to all these needs and the libog thing as you may call it

    loverboyph at Jun 10, 09 at 5:01 am

  37. palakpakan sa comment ni Broken_heart. wagi! yun sana icocomment ko din, naunahan ako.

    Echoserita at Jun 10, 09 at 5:48 pm

  38. they say being gay is hereditary. have you ever heard of chromosome number 48? but i don’t believe that. there are lots of loopholes regarding that belief. if you love watching pink films you will always observe that there’s always a link about being a gay into having an unmet need like absence of a father while growing up or having a father who never seem to care. yes, you’re right it’s nothing nothing but a primordial need, and perhaps gays have never experienced being satisfied having sex with the same sex. guys, we have a need that only us can fill. it’s wrong to in capitulate it to another person. we should all be first aware what’s happening within us before we do things that would probably change our lives forever. whether we admit it or not having this kind of lifestyle is such a miserable thing. we must settle down our own personal issues so then we will realize that God created us men and not the other way around

    going straight at Jun 11, 09 at 10:13 am

  39. @going straight: i agree that it’s wrong to capitulate satisfaction/happiness to another person. but i don’t get your line saying that,”we should be first aware on what’s happening within us before we do things that would probably change our lives forever.” please expound. thanks.

    Leo at Jun 11, 09 at 11:17 pm

  40. Guys, ayaw niyo na ba magbago?

    Believer at Jun 13, 09 at 12:30 am

  41. my response to leo. take it from what migs mentioned in one of his lines. gays have a deep need, an entrenched primordial to be touched by another man. i believe we must try to discover it for ourselves why sex doesn’t satisfy us. sex is a very beautiful thing that happens when a man overpowers a woman while the woman submit herself to her man. so aren’t you frustrated that after giving your all you ask yourself with this kind of question. bakit parang may kulang pa? so maybe we all have emptiness that sex can’t fill. we must dig down to the roots. that one ultimate factor why we feel like this, why we prefer a man with this certain kind of features or character, why we became a woman hater, and how does we deal with men. me, ive been longing for a father and a brother. now, there’s this good man who’s loving me unconditionally. i said its wrong to capitulate your needs to another person, but because of him i am filled. we hug and we always have a close encounter but believe it or not the malice has gone. i just love him now like my own brother. i hope you guys will also find what you’re looking for.

    going straight at Jun 14, 09 at 8:41 pm

  42. well i forgot something. i think our lives will never be the same if we already had a sexual encounter with the same sex. for me a virgin anytime could be like those who are already not. but those who are virgin no more can never be a virgin a again. i hope i stressed my point well. so if you’re still a virgin i advice you reserve it until it’a time. don’t care what other people would say. trust me it’s all worth it. i’ve been there and done that.

    going straight at Jun 14, 09 at 8:53 pm

  43. thanks going straight. your poignant tone makes me think that you are a well-experienced person in terms of love. goodluck and may happiness be with you always.

    Leo at Jun 16, 09 at 1:20 am

  44. well, leo i’ve never experienced being romantically in love. some issues are still yet to be settled. but what’s more important is that now i know what i really feel and what i really want. a lot of people were still saying “show up”, take off those skeletons inside your closet”. but i know i shouldn’t care. i must love myself, bring back the value to myself that it deserves and worthy of; and never again fool and lure myself to the things that would temporarily anesthetize my pains but would never heal the wound. thanks guys, i was expecting of some violent reactions, but it seems you’re all respectful, broad minded and intelligent men.

    going straight at Jun 16, 09 at 10:53 am

  45. at some point, i can say that with your well-versed explanation it catapults experience. whatever the case, i agree that we shouldn’t be luring ourselves to temporary pleasure but get to the bottom of it and face what we really want and what is commonly right. it takes commitment and strength. and believe me, the disparity between pleasure-seeking and long-standing love can be a constant debate emanating inside.

    Leo at Jun 17, 09 at 5:26 am

  46. I think that the need to be touched goes beyond all boundaries of gender preferences, and is not necessarily always in congruence with the need to fill a deprive or even void of affection. Do we really need to probe deeply into why or how anyone (straight or gay) would choose to satisfy a carnal lust? Still, do we need to do an inquest on a person just because he knows his temporal wants & he knows where & how to get it?

    helios at Jun 22, 09 at 2:08 am

  47. Last Saturday afternoon, I was at South Bay City Spa.
    Had a good massage with my regular masseur. His “touch” on every point of my body simply fulfills the “need to be touched by a man.”

    After the massage, I drove home and typical of Manila, it was horrendously traffic. Out of nowhere, an old man knocked on my window and offered the mineral water he was selling. I did purchase and gave him P50. I observed that he was suffering from Alzheimer’s disease. He was having difficulties looking for change, so I just said, “manong sa inyo po iyong sukli.” He was all smiles and couldn’t cotain his happiness. I smiled back and offered the KFC meal I was supposed to bring home. He said, “Maraming salamat hijo, pagpalain ka nawa. Matutuwa ang apo ko dito.” The traffic light turned green and I had to go.

    I’ve been to many MPs and SPAs for the last 3 years, and gave tip no lower than P200; but never have I been “TOUCHED BY A MAN” like that manong selling mineral water.

    gordon at Jun 22, 09 at 8:46 am

  48. i don’t want to sound like a moralist here but i think yes i am. i always seek God’s guidance before i write anything. the problem with losing your virginity into a homosexual intercourse is like where you reached a place when there is no point of turning back. adding up the society’s perception towards homosexuality like it’s a disease with no cure, or a mental retardation. but as i have said it before we must dig down to the roots or get down to the bottom of it. we should let ourselves understand why we are feeling like this. i firmly believe that this is truly borne out of a past experience. and when you already have the knowledge of yourself you can actually resolve any issues emanating inside of you. what the mind conceive the body will follow. if sex with another man no longer satisfy you where else will you go? but you can’t do it alone you need somebody to guide you. if you need help go to baclaran church parish office there you can find a support and councelling that caters to the people like us. thanks for giving your time to read my article este comment(feeling!). just always remember God knows us more that we know ourselves so God only has the capacity to change us and then reveal to us what would really give us peace and true happiness.

    going straight at Jun 22, 09 at 1:44 pm

  49. @going straight: A welcome insight, but that works for people who believe in the Bible alone – as reinforced by religion – as the ultimate source of truth. But there are souls who believe in spirituality and in God whose unconditional love goes beyond what the scriptures speak of.

    helios at Jun 23, 09 at 2:54 pm

  50. ah…tag-libog na naman ang lola migs ninyo…=)

    peppoi at Jun 25, 09 at 12:38 am

  51. Inasmuch as I’d like to have a massage, the encounter with the old man last saturday makes me feel guilty. An amount less than P100 means so much for him. For a day, somehow sufficient to buy food and medicines. Splurging on earthly desires must come to an end…

    gordon at Jun 25, 09 at 12:42 pm

  52. How much does one spent for a massage

    KFC at Jun 25, 09 at 12:48 pm

  53. Hi. First time kong mag-post dito sa site. Hi Manila gay guy! Hehehe.

    At dahil puro English magsalita ang mga tao dito, ma-try nga: *Ahem*

    I’ve never actually been into a massage parlor with men giving extra service. But I dated this older guy who works as a freelance masseur (and swimming instructor) so I got both the massage and the “extra service” for free.

    My gay best friend also taught me how to massage well because he learned the skill from nursing.

    Lesson learned: I think it’s better to have friends, dates, or a boyfriend who would “touch” you for free (in a different way. hehehe) than to have to pay for it, especially if you’re also looking for the extra service.

    In my case, I felt a sense of fulfillment in receiving the massage for free because they did so voluntarily. The only reward I gave them was to reciprocate the massage.

    *End of English part

    So masahe na din ibayad niyo sa mga hot niyong kaibigan at ka-date. haha!

    Wenkkkzzzz.

    -Raydon :)

    Raydon at Jun 27, 09 at 10:21 am

  54. Hoy nare-raid na mga massage parlor…kaya kayong mga baklitang hayok sa laman, magtika na kayo..shame on you for spending too much just because you have overactive libidos…why don’t you just donate your spare cash to those who are in dire need of financial assistance like the indigents in your communities…mga bakla makonsyensya naman kayo

    chuvaleli at Jun 30, 09 at 9:20 pm

  55. well sorry i think i should not deliberately try to change you guys. am i God? of course not! but what am i just trying to invoke is that it is important to understand yourself. why you are feeling like this, why you prefer a man instead of a woman, why you are a woman hater and why there’s a need to be touched by another man. i believe most gays here are a product of the teasing, contempt, hatred, discrimination and pressure from people around us. some believe that God created us to be gays and some say we are not being true to ourselves. but how much do they really know about us? are they with us during our formative years, do they feel exactly how we feel and how much knowledge do they have to know what we are going through? they make this searching such an ordeal; they never really respected our own individuality. everybody must take on our journey within ourselves to know who we really are and what we really want. no one could enter so nobody should try to invade. guys you must know that all questions can be answered in God’s perfect time. it’s true that God is the author of love. we love because God first loved us. but it always depends on how we express it. i can’t understand why we should kneel down and worship another person or make a mess out of ourselves. is that what you call love making? so I’m writing this one because someday i want to have my own family and i am dreaming to have sons and i don’t want them to experience the same thing that i had(needless to elaborate how painful our lives is). so i want to help guys who are undergoing identity crisis in any way possible.

    going straight at Jul 9, 09 at 1:26 pm

  56. once a gay, always a gay. Itong si going straight hahanap-hanapin din ang titi. hahaha. at mas nakakahiya kung manlalalaki siya pag matanda na, mas asawa’t mga anak pa…nakakadiri yun. Bibigyan mo pa ng kahihiyan pamilya mo…magpakatotoo ka….but i do believe in miracles…but still, miracles happen very rarely…i hope it does happen to you…but otherwise, isa kang baklang niloloko ang sarili. And that’s the saddest reality that can happen to one’s life.

    chuvaleli at Jul 9, 09 at 9:34 pm

  57. yes i know someday i might again get into temptation. however my dream to save another person from being miserable is bigger than all the odds. weather we admit it or not many of us are living a life of miseries. we always give our all to the point where we are making our man like our god. but often than not we are always left being used. and when we get older who’s the one who will take care of us? we don’t have children, we don’t have a partner who’ll be with us for the rest of our days. so i want to help create a better family for everybody. i want them to realize how strong foundation it’ll make for their children. i want to help children who are going through the same thing that i had to resolve all the conflicts and issues within themselves. i believe nobody deserve the kind of life that we have. would you want this kind of life for your own brother or nephew? what if you see them showing some signs, would you encourage it? we shouldn’t be glad that we are growing in abundance. it only shows that dysfunctional and broken families are abundantly growing as well.

    going straight at Jul 14, 09 at 9:58 pm

  58. 3rd of 4 parts: Bob Garon’s Accepting Homosexuality
    The Manila Times’ Life and Times Section

    It is quite clear that, based on numerous studies, homosexuality is not a disease, nor is it a psychological disorder. It wasn’t always seen as such. Not so long ago, homosexuals were seen as sick people who needed to be cured. Not anymore. Sure, there are those who still see gay people as sick and abnormal, but serious scientists no longer share that thinking. The American Psychiatric Association has removed homosexuality from the list of disorders.

    “There is, in fact, a broad consensus that homosexuality is ‘constitutional’—in other words, that being gay, like being straight, is a natural, unchangeable part of who a person is inside. This is very important because it suggests, among other things, that in raising our sons, there is nothing we as parents can do or not do that somehow cause our child to ‘become’ either homosexual or heterosexual. While environmental factors, such as parenting, can of course influence the developmental experience of boys both gay and straight, they seem to have relatively little impact on what his genuine sexual orientation will ultimately be- that is, on whether as an adult he will feel primarily drawn to a man or a woman as the healthy object of his love and affection.’” (William Pollack, Ph. D.)

    As the search for the roots of homosexuality sexuality goes on, it is becoming clearer that one’s sexual orientation whether heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual is inborn. Research has shown that identical twins that were separated at birth and raised apart, without seeing each other, were found to be homosexual. This is a very interesting study because it lends credence to the theory that homosexuality is inborn. If this is so as I believe it is, then there is nothing that we can do to change this, no matter how hard we try. And God know how great and diverse have been the efforts to change homosexuals and “cure” them. Though some people say they have cured homosexuals, their claims have not been substantiated by serious studies.

    I have dealt with so many gay people and I can tell you none was ever “cured” despite the superhuman efforts to change them. Perhaps those who were said to have changed were bisexuals who made strong and successful efforts (at least for a while) to direct their attention to the opposite sex.

    As the evidence in favor of the inborn theory piles up, homosexuals increasingly face the reality that they were born gay and that their sexual orientation is not some evil choice or depravity.

    Momoy at Jul 15, 09 at 8:55 am

  59. im not advocating homosexuality. Let me drive that point as clearly as I can. I’m only after being true to oneself. Why live as a heterosexual man when you know deep inside what your real sexual preference is. I do respect people’s choices. If it is an individual’s choice to nurture a family…that’s perfectly fine with me. I just don’t want gays dragging other people’s lives in misery just because they want to live in a farce. That’s it. I hope for the best for everyone…gay and straight alike. I just dont want our “sisters” spending too much just to indulge themselves in their libidinous desires. In these hard times, a few pesos will go a long way towards helping our less fortunate brothers and sisters…magka-konsyensya tayo.

    chuvaleli at Jul 20, 09 at 7:11 pm

  60. so, well i guess we all have our own belief, individuality and choices in life. nobody can dictate where we’re happy. so i hope you’re happy to the kind of life you guys have. just learn to accept or at least try to understand that there are some people like us who are not satisfied making love to another man. we have some needs and wants that men can’t fill. we don’t actually enjoy sucking another dick since we don’t have a g spot inside our mouth and we defecate everyday so we don’t need someone to gave us that urge. it’s not my discretion anymore to kneel down before a human. it’s only God who’s worthy of such worship and praise. i am not assuming that i will change because i know for a fact that that won’t be possible. but at least the next generation will not be like me. that’s why i am advocating men to go straight, for them to enjoy having their own family, experience to be a father and be able to race their own children to a normal life.

    going straight at Aug 6, 09 at 10:13 pm

  61. i’ve heard both version, vilma’s version is comedy… very poor diction… and sakit sa tenga parang ginugupit na yero di ko maintindihan yung wordings.. nora’s is okay..good diction, a serious song. at least vilma tried…vilma’s acting is hysterical…nora is so profound.. but bottom line depends on us… okay.

    rocky at Oct 2, 09 at 12:24 pm

  62. it sucks when people try to impose their beliefs on others.. guys, when you start preaching the word of God… it actually makes everything moot and academic…so why bother.. if you say that being gay is a bad thing..well I respect your opinion but when you want to change gays into straight well it makes me want to advocate changing straight people into gay.. hehe.. all we need now is a comment saying that God spoke to him and told him that being gay is a sin….and in response (in full bella flores mode) if you talk to God you call that praying.. and when God starts talking to you that’s schizophrenia! lol

    men at Dec 3, 09 at 4:27 pm

  63. All the baggage!! All the drama!!
    Yung mga trueniness na mhinchelles, wiz yan bother sa ganyang mga dicussyenss. Buko juice, orange juice. Hallmark ng pagiging verdaderang binawian ng fairy wings ang mag-dwell sa mga arguments eklavuvey (por ejemplo, ang sinaunang lola ng mga ganyang drama, ang liga ng sisterettes ng Grecia ay mga jeklerzz na walang pasubali)
    Bading lang ang naggugulumihanan sa mga isyu na itey. Kaya tantanan ang self-denial at nakakalukesh ang ganyang atake sa layf. Matuto sa naging buhay ng dagsa dagsa nating mga chupatiran na nagpakaLucrecia Kasilag ka e e mote na sila ay mhinthol na walang bahid.
    Yun lang at isang (belated) mapagbunying araw ng mga bakla 2009 sa ating lahat.

    v at Dec 6, 09 at 5:31 pm

  64. I am almost getting lost as regards the letter trails in this site. But I wish to share to our kapatid some few words. Whether we like it or not, the urge to be with someone, bi, gay or straight, be it for company or sex, or be it for one-night stand or for longer relationships, will be there as long as we don’t temper our desires. In the same manner, I agree with comments (in some other themes) about mga gurang losing their decency and discretion while in the wet area and whereelse. But have you ever thought of yourselves to be in the same category in the near future? That doesn’t exempt anyone from growing older. Sabi nga age is nasa tao na rin. And it also means that we have to see ourselves in the same context and change what has to be changed in terms of behavior. Perhaps we have to consider that these oldies were not enjoying the opportunities being availed of by now by the younger set of gays. So some are luckier than others! Can we do anything about this? Maybe this site if only these elderly have time to read gay thematic issues and related comments surely will educate them from the standpooint of this generation. In other words, let us not put bad meaning to places such as spa, massage clinic, etc. In such a way, we can be like other “cultured” or “educated” societies viz-a-viz the gay world.

    Luvkou at Dec 24, 09 at 12:34 pm

  65. i like to tell you something I have An Experience A cutie guy isang angel nanakakaakit talaga this guy named
    Ken very delicious good massage good service naka punta naman ako sa Wensha yes there good but totally i cant forget this massuer named ken from bacoor spa kakaiba mabangong mabango sya marami naring mga tisoy cutie guy na nag massage sa akin but this guy is defferent his smell wow soo good his touch splended i dont know why his note wow smooth nice big napaganda ng katawan his face parang angel nice hair shit sana ma meet ko sya ulit pero ng nag balik ako dun dayy off nya sayang talaga

    gemini at Jan 5, 10 at 4:55 pm

  66. sakin lang masarap mabuhay sa mundo eto masarap magmahal chumupa ,dumila wala akong paki-alam sasabihin ng iba basta akoy malaya kung huhusgahan man manila ako. ang masasabi ko lang nakatungtung parin tayo sa lupa parihas lang din tayong mamatay kaya pantay pantay lang tayo maging bading man o lalaki o babae pagdating paghuhusga
    hindi naman tayo huhusgahan ayon sa pagkatao natin huhusgahan tayo ayon sa kung ano ang laman ng ating mga puso

    gemini at Jan 5, 10 at 5:08 pm

  67. hi gemini san ung bacoor spa? dun b yung masseur n KEN ang name?

    trgo2001 at Jan 16, 10 at 9:32 pm

  68. wet spa in imus cavite?

    haha at Jan 23, 10 at 12:22 pm

  69. same question to Gemini… hope you could give some more detail… needless to say, we’re interested to try it there :-D

    Fishy at Jan 25, 10 at 8:53 pm

  70. Hello. I’m now in Indonesia and I’ll be staying here for a while. Does anybody here know any spa or massage parlors catering to PLU’s. Please help. I’m in Surabay most of the time. Thanks.

    John

    John at Feb 2, 10 at 1:55 pm

  71. @John: am not sure about Surabaya, but when in Jakarta try to check massage parlors along Jl. Radio Dalam. I recall there were at least 2 MPs there that catered to PLUs. Of course, don’t expect the massage to be particularly good.
    The spa in Hotel Nikko President across from the Grand Hyatt also has straight masseurs who give excellent massages inclusive of a happy ending. Check out the massage service ads posted in the newspapers.

    caetano at Feb 5, 10 at 7:16 pm

  72. Anyone going to spa this weekend?

    gordoncotoco at Feb 9, 10 at 6:14 pm

  73. gordon how much ang membership fee sa south bay at gano katagal membership?

    Geoff at Feb 17, 10 at 2:24 am

  74. Medyo matagal na ako nawala sa pagpunta sa mga massage / SPA and tried last friday pumuta ako sa Verde at I was entertained by the bald chubby guy . Magaling ang naka line up na therapist ang nag masahe sa akin . It was really relaxing masarap ang mga hagod at maasikaso ang masahistang yun, After a year na nawala ako sa pagpunta sa SPA it was a great come back kasi matino ang napuntahan ko. Give it a try din.

    justine at Jul 5, 10 at 10:34 am

  75. 1200 ang membershp southbay for one year

    nathan at Jul 9, 10 at 10:43 pm

  76. Been to southbay the other day. ‘t was good Though the pool was decommisioned, so its dry/wet sauna only.

    Rob Lange at Jul 30, 10 at 8:53 pm

  77. I’ve been out of the country for 2 months, any new tips about masseurs in CTL and Sanctuario? So far, for me, budget for Sanctuario is 2k to 2500 total with es, room and massage…everything is possible (as in ES)… But if your budget is only 1200 to 1500 for room hj and massage, go to CTL…. For both establishments, massage and service are excellent pero mas gusto ko yung facilities sa CTL kasi mas malaki at pwede mo masolo ang pool pag off peak hours nila…

    Carlo at Aug 14, 10 at 6:07 am

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